Long Term knife ownership

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Lets face it, the knife companies we love will not be in business forever. For those of us who have certain models of knives we love and would hate to lose, is the only solution to buy multiple copies of the knife in preparation for them to break and be replaced? Or are there custom knife makers out there that would take on the work of repairing knives of companies who have gone out of business or have stopped repairing certain models of knives?
 
I buy multiples of almost every knife I buy, because if I buy it - I love it.

If I like a knife I'll buy two. If I really like a knife I'll buy three. If I absolutely love a knife I'll buy 4...
 
I buy multiples of almost every knife I buy, because if I buy it - I love it.

If I like a knife I'll buy two. If I really like a knife I'll buy three. If I absolutely love a knife I'll buy 4...

When/if I can ever afford that, I will probably do the same. But for now it's just not something I can easily afford.
 
When/if I can ever afford that, I will probably do the same. But for now it's just not something I can easily afford.

I sacrifice diversity to do what I do. I could have tons of different knives, but I choose to buy dupes of the ones I really love.


I couldn't afford to do this either if I bought every knife that tickled me, but narrowing it down a lot helps me to afford the ones I love - and the dupes. :)
 
Lets face it, the knife companies we lovewill not be in business forever. For those of us who have certain models of knives we love and would hate to lose,

I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. And if a knife I like and use now becomes no longer available next year, oh well, I'm sure there'll always be other great knives calling out for me to spend my money! I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)
 
I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)



Lots of good ideas in there. Thanks for that.

I fall victim to "loving" worldly things. Being a Christian, I know that this is a problem. I am going to try to follow what you outlined above, but I don't really know "how."
 
I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)

That's definitely a very valid opinion on the matter. I can definitely look at myself and see some of those tendencies. Now taking that and keeping it in mind, I'd still consider wanting to keep something working for a long period of time a good thing anyways. I would love to pass down knives to my future children/grand children. Also, if you have the mindset of crimsontide, he knows exactly what he likes and there is nothing wrong with that. If he wants to use the same knife for the rest of his life, buying multiple copies of those knives is definitely also a valid option because he actually uses them. Using the item will wear out anything regardless of quality.

But I definitely follow you on the "love" thing. Thanks for sharing.
 
Lots of good ideas in there. Thanks for that.

I fall victim to "loving" worldly things. Being a Christian, I know that this is a problem. I am going to try to follow what you outlined above, but I don't really know "how."


It is partly because I'm a Christian that I have this concern--although I have some non-Christian shooting buddies who have the same concerns about getting overly attached to "stuff" and neglecting their families/friends.

I don't know what "the answer" is here, but Jesus has some good tips in the Gospels. :-) And of course, I listed above one practical step that helps me: I've been figuring out the stuff that I actually NEED and USE, or at least will use within the reasonable near future, and then getting rid of the other stuff. Either give it away to a friend or a good cause, or sell. Even after doing that, I still have plenty of knives and firearms to enjoy, but life does feel a bit less "cluttered."
 
I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. And if a knife I like and use now becomes no longer available next year, oh well, I'm sure there'll always be other great knives calling out for me to spend my money! I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)

The most sound advice I have ever read on Bladeforums since 1999. (When I started lurking here)
 
I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. And if a knife I like and use now becomes no longer available next year, oh well, I'm sure there'll always be other great knives calling out for me to spend my money! I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)


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A great dose of reality in a materialistic world. This should be a sticky.

Carl.
 
My knives will be with me long after those friends and family have died. Through them, I become nearly immortal!
 
The best thread/comments i've read here.

I'd post more, but i have to be *very* cautious what i write on the net given my location and vocation. However, i agree with, support, endorse, encourage and live most of what's been said.

Hobby's are great - loads of fun, but always good to have balance - especially with what we're spending our time/resources on.
 
My knives will be with me long after those friends and family have died. Through them, I become nearly immortal!

Your knives will be around longer than family or friends?

Immortal because of some inanimate objects?

This is sad. In your last moments on this earth, which would you rather hold in your hand, your wife of 40 or 50 years who you've raised children and grandchildren with, or the cold dead plastic of some knife?

In your last hour on this earth, would you rather see your wife, kids, and grandkids, or some knives laid out on a table?

I think I feel sorry for you.

Carl.
 
Your knives will be around longer than family or friends?

Immortal because of some inanimate objects?

This is sad. In your last moments on this earth, which would you rather hold in your hand, your wife of 40 or 50 years who you've raised children and grandchildren with, or the cold dead plastic of some knife?

In your last hour on this earth, would you rather see your wife, kids, and grandkids, or some knives laid out on a table?

I think I feel sorry for you.

Carl.

I think it was a little tongue in cheek. At least that's how I read it.

I'm a minimalist by nature. It's an actual psychological burden for me if I own too much stuff. Everytime I go to the goodwill or sell a thing I never use it's liberating for me. At this point in time I only own two of 1 knife. Partially for what the OP said about having one as a replacment just in case but also because they came out with a wicked cool safety orange. :D However, I would not be sad if I could never use that knife again. Disappointed but not sad. It's just a thing.
 
I highlighted the word "love" because it appears twice and reminds me of something relevant to this discussion. I've been trying to retrain myself to have this mindset: I want to only love people, and not objects. I'm totally not telling anybody else what they should do, but here are some reasons why I find this mindset of loving only people--not objects--to be helpful for myself.

* It keeps my focus on stuff that's more important and long-lasting. Spending more time with loved ones and friends, etc.
* It keeps me from getting so "attached" to favorite items of gear (car, guns, knives, shoes, tools, watches, whatever) that I fall into the following kinds of silly or even self-destructive patterns:
- Hoarding more stuff than I really need or can use.
- Spending too much money on toys for myself, and as a result, short-changing other important financial needs, like saving for retirement, taking vacations with the family, etc.
- Getting so obsessed with my favorite gear, that I spend all my time and energy thinking about it, or working on it, and they as a result I ignore people who are important to me (like my family).
- Getting so attached to my favorite gear, I'm afraid to USE it and get a scratch on it.


Of course, I'm still working on this area, and sometimes even in these theads, I still post that I "love" this or that item. Maybe none of this stuff is a problem for anybody else, but for ME, in all seriousness, it would be really easy to go over the top and get so obsessed with gear, that I fall into all of the above types of patterns. And I know it affects at least some other guys. I have a good friend who has an almost unbelievable amount of reloading gear and firearms. He has 4 safes to house all the firearms, and an entire basement filled with reloading equipment, 90% of which has never been used. He has multiple brand-new guns, each one for which he gets custom triggers and fancy accessories, and which he has never fired! And I have done some of this type of stuff too, though not quite as extreme as this example.

Bottom line, and back to the subject of the thread: I don't buy multiple knives of the same type unless I actually plan to USE them, currently. In the last year, I sold off all guns (6 of them) that I owned and did not use consistently, nor did I think I'd ever have a realistic use for them within the next 3 to 5 years. Now I'm doing the same with knives. The mindset is this: I'll get a knife when I think I actually have a use for it (EDC, camping/backpacking, utility around the house, or as a survival blade). For me, if a knife doesn't fit one of those scenarios, I'm going to sell it. And if a knife I like and use now becomes no longer available next year, oh well, I'm sure there'll always be other great knives calling out for me to spend my money! I just want to view my knives as tools to be used--and of course, enjoyed--but not something to get emotionally attached to. Someone will ask, what about collecting? I'm not against collecting as a hobby, although I'm not really into it. But I do think collecting can be dangerous for some of the same reasons listed above: easy to get overly attached to "stuff" and then end up with all this junk sitting around that you don't need and never use.

Just me, sorry for the rant. :-)

Very thoughtful post. I agree 100%
 
There is some good stuff in this thread...

I agree with Jack Knife. Knives are nothing more than a tool. Any affection or emotion I attach to them can only come out of the context of my using them in my association with friends, and family. In other words when my kids are grown, I might have good memories of using a knife while doing things with my children when they were younger. Otherwise, a piece of metal/wood, etc., is just a means to an end.

In regard to the original question, yes, I tend to buy duplicates of the knives I really like and use. I do that because I have a history of losing them over time, and I want to be able to replace a lost knife that I like very much with another.

Like some of the others above, I am a Christian, and I also struggle with materialism. My Chrisitianity allows me to see it for what it is, though, and to recognize that no matter how I want to justify, having a zillion knives sitting in a drawer doesn't benefit me, or anyone else for that matter. If you are of a different persuasion, you may disagree.
 
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