Looking at getting a new knife sharpening Rig

Whats you suggestion

  • KME

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  • Edge Pro Apex

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Wicked Edge

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Work Sharp

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Lansky Sharpener

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spyderco Sharpmaker

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Sharpening Systems

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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EntrancedVermin

EntrancedVermin

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Im looking at getting a new knife sharpening Rig. Right now im using a lansky sharpener (older one) it works get keeps a consisted angle along the blade with a the stone. my only issue with the thing is that some stones change the angle by just a half a degree or less so its not perfect. I would recommend it for beginners, i can get a polished edge with it. I know that seems a little crazy but the thing isn't half bad for $40ish i of course have bought alot more stones and accesses for it. No diamonds thats why im looking to upgrade, they do have diamonds for it but i would rather just upgrade then spend more money on it. Im looking for suggestions but i am looking at the KME since i like holding the sharpener in my hand. I well have a poll just Because i want to know what people think and i know more people would vote then comment. If you have an suggestion of anything else then let me know. Im not looking to buy this at this moment so price is no issue right now.

Thanks
 
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My vote would be for a good set of ceramic stones, a strop, and your hands...

I guess that means "other" !
 
On the high end the wicked edge is a fantastic system, and easy to use, but it is expensive. I believe a monkey could get a fantastic edge with one-and I am proof.
You still have to find the right angle vs the systems ruler(using sharpie method), but once you find what is right you just have to note it for the future.
Low end I go sharp maker.
 
EntrancedVermin said:
Im looking at getting a new knife sharpening Rig. Right now im using a lansky sharpener (older one) it works get keeps a consisted angle along the blade with a the stone. my only issue with the thing is that some stones change the angle by just a half a degree or less so its not perfect. I would recommend it for beginners, i can get a polished edge with it. I know that seems a little crazy but the thing isn't half bad for $40ish i of course have bought alot more stones and accesses for it. No diamonds thats why im looking to upgrade, they do have diamonds for it but i would rather just upgrade then spend more money on it. Im looking for suggestions but i am looking at the KME since i like holding the sharpener in my hand. I well have a poll just Because i want to know what people think and i know more people would vote then comment. If you have an suggestion of anything else then let me know. Im not looking to buy this at this moment so price is no issue right now.

Thanks
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Hi,
I voted other because I don't know what you really want,
but the ebay has been listing very very crazy prices with top rates sellers
so you could buy half of your list with extra diamonds and benchstones for $40

$8 for Edge Pro Apex clone , stones 120 / 320 / 600 / 1500 alumox
$8 for Edge Pro Professional clone , stones 120 / 320 / 600 / 1500 alumox
$8 for KME clone, 360/480 diamond, 600/1000 alumox
$3 for extra apex diamond stones 200/500/800
$5 for apex diamond 60 grit or 80 , extra extra coarse for regrinds
$5 for 2000 grit diamond, or 1000 or 1500
$1 for ~7in x ~2in 360/600 diamond bench stone with holder
$2 for ~7in x ~2in waterstone 240/1000 or 1000/3000 or 2000/5000
 
bucketstove said:
Hi,
I voted other because I don't know what you really want,
but the ebay has been listing very very crazy prices with top rates sellers
so you could buy half of your list with extra diamonds and benchstones for $40

$8 for Edge Pro Apex clone , stones 120 / 320 / 600 / 1500 alumox
$8 for Edge Pro Professional clone , stones 120 / 320 / 600 / 1500 alumox
$8 for KME clone, 360/480 diamond, 600/1000 alumox
$3 for extra apex diamond stones 200/500/800
$5 for apex diamond 60 grit or 80 , extra extra coarse for regrinds
$5 for 2000 grit diamond, or 1000 or 1500
$1 for ~7in x ~2in 360/600 diamond bench stone with holder
$2 for ~7in x ~2in waterstone 240/1000 or 1000/3000 or 2000/5000
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Im sorry not trying to be rude but i have no interest in a clone the main problem with clone are the stone they suck like alot. The stones are basically all the same grit. The rig is cheap everything is cheap "you get what you pay for" quite literally on the cheap clones.
Jeff a.k.a CutleryLover Has a good video on why they suck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEJivO3IySU

Im interested to know for the people who voted on "other" what are you suggestions.
 
Which WorkSharp are you considering? They make both manual and powered versions, and different models within those categories. Also what your needs are... for example, more in just maintaining, or do you like to reprofile a knife when you get it?

It would also help if you gave an indication of what you'll be sharpening... number & types of knives, any "high end" steels, etc.

Pretty much everything you've listed is decent... just going off your first post, the KME would be an upgrade to what you have now, and as you said, fits with your desire to hold it in your hands. WorkSharp's Guided Sharpener is worth a look, if you'd like to venture into freehand, but still have guides to help when needed.

p.s. Smart to avoid the clones.
 
I have an Edge Pro (professional), but have watched/read several reviews of the Apex system and it also seems to be very good. I also have 2 of the Spyderco Sharpmaker systems. One is the earlier model that came in the nylon case. It had only the 40 degree slots. The second is what I think is still the current model with both 30 and 40 degree slots.

The Spyderco is a fine system so long as you do not mind re-profiling your knives to the 40 degree primary edge bevel. It is also quite portable and that is a plus.
 
Voted KME


I use a Spyderco Sharpmaker for most of my sharpening. I have all the Spyderco rods plus various Congress Tool 1/2" triangle rods. It's quick and easy to get an excellent working edge.

I use a DMT Aligner for serious work like reprofiling and repairing and have all the DMT diamond stones as well.

Looking back, expense-wise, it may have been better to jump straight to the KME when I decided to upgrade from my Lansky.

Though this ignores the wealth of knowledge I gained along the way. Priceless.

And the Sharpmaker would still be faster. 😉
 
EntrancedVermin said:
Im sorry not trying to be rude but i have no interest in a clone the main problem with clone are the stone they suck like alot. The stones are basically all the same grit. The rig is cheap everything is cheap "you get what you pay for" quite literally on the cheap clones.
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Hi,
the problems with these things seem very exaggerated,
there are many other videos showing decent results ...
but I get it,
we all like the things we like,
make our own choices,
freedom :):thumbup:
 
I do some fireproofing I like to keep my blades at 20-25degrees. thanks you for all your in put. I think im going to go with the kme since it fits my needs.

Edit: i have done some hand sharpening im not to bad at it, but for anything under 6 inch i would rather have a guided system.
 
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You will not be diassapointed with the KME! I own the sharpmaker, DMT stones and water stones. The sharpmaker didn't cut it for me. If you have various blades with different angles, this system is not optimal. IMO good for quick touch ups. My DMT stones gave me much better results but not consistently.
I got the KME 2 months ago and couldn't be happier. Every knife I have sharpened has been hair whitling sharp! My bevels are nice and even. Re-profiling is much easier but it helps using the 100 or even the 60 grit. Polished edges are possible Going up to the 1500 grit. For a mirror edge you can get a kangaroo stop with 4 micron. Another plus is the portability of the system. You can throw it in a bag and take it with you very easily. Great for sharpening at campgrounds, hotels or from the back of your truck.
I was on the fence for almost 2 years on buying it and regret not buying it earlier.
 
I have used Norton's 313 system for years and really like it. It would fall into the 'other' category. DM
 
I just bought a used 313 off e bay for 65 shipped. The stones are worn badly but I can buy more. Looking forward to trying it out. Seems I'm moving away from my WE system and going more by hand.
 
Good for you. I think you'll enjoy the simple freedom it offers on creating different edge types and the large stones offer a generous working platform. All sorts of different stones can be procured for it. And the system will last for generations. DM
 
Peter Hartwig said:
On the high end the wicked edge is a fantastic system, and easy to use, but it is expensive. I believe a monkey could get a fantastic edge with one-and I am proof.
You still have to find the right angle vs the systems ruler(using sharpie method), but once you find what is right you just have to note it for the future.
Low end I go sharp maker.
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Besides the expense, how about the time required to re-bevel and then sharpen and then refine the bevel and edge?
 
It's not that I make this sharpening system, that I recommend it; I recommend it because it works so well.

The ERU system is made to be used with your diamond plate or stones.
The Package comes with angle wedges of 8 10 12 14 15 16 17 18 20 degrees and are used in producing a "Flat" edge on your plate or stone.
The ERU is endlessly adjustable from 16 degrees inclusive to 46 degrees inclusive.
The abrading surfaces are lapped on a diamond plate "after" they are mounted in the disc, resulting in perfectly matched surfaces.
The combination of using the degree wedges on your stones or plate followed by burr removal and then stropping using the ERU produces extremely fine edges. Single pass hair removal.
The ERU system will produce edges as good as any sharpener available on the market and better than many of them
One really nice thing about the ERU, it comes in a beautiful hand stitched leather case and can be slipped into your pocket when you go afield. It's easy to maintain any and all edges developed using the ERU system whether its a 16 degree razor or a 40 degree chopper.

i for one do not want to spend half a day sharpening a knife, I'm one of those ten minute guys. All it takes is: place your stone on the table, select a degree wedge, raise a burr, remove the burr and set the ERU to strop.
There is a dual sided strop included in the package, leather on one side balsa wood on the other. The working area is 2 x 5 inches.
The cost of the package is less than the base plate on a WE and it will produce edges just as good and in a quarter of the time.

If you like to free hand sharpen and would like to do it accurately, give the ERU a shot. I call it precision free hand.

Check us out @ edgeru.com this Saturday. We will be open for business by mid afternoon.

Regards, Fred
 
Gotta say I am in the "Other" camp. Have the Spyderco Sharpmaker, with a few addtl coarser rods to plug in when needed from Congress Tools. Good for touching up and portability. Have several Japanese waterstones and ceramic flat and slip stones that I use for carving tools and chisels. And I have a 42" belt sander and various belts for when I need to hit a bunch of things quickly.

For the knives I carry where I might have some pride and feel like putting in some time, I use an Edge Pro knockoff from Amazon. Just ordered the latest variant a couple days ago, in fact, which claims to be all stainless. Doubt it really is all stainless, but it will be a step up from the metal and plastic one I had been using. Probably a few mods I will make, like adding some magnets and fastening hardware changes. For $30, I'm none to scared of making mods.
From my prior experience, the supplied stones were nasty. But, was easy enough to get good stones from Congress Tools for a few $ each. I got the 6x1 1/4" stones and glued them onto some scrap 1/8" scrap aluminum strips, that then clamp into the holder just like the originals. Also made up a few 1/2" wide ones where I roughly rounded them, to handle convex blades better. Even made a 'strop' version by gluing on a piece of canvas material that I charge with compound.
I use a little $25 electronic angle gauge cube to keep my angles honest/consistent.

Have contemplated the Wicked Edge a few times, but seems very pricey for what it is. If I really wanted to go down that path, personally, I might try to cobble together my own variant of the concept. For now tho, I do pretty well with what I got.

So with a little ingenuity, it is quite possible to to mimic the pricier stuff. Even to surpass it. For instance, you have more stone varieties that you can pick from. Different strokes for different folks, perhaps
 
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