looking for a 12-16" blade big double-edged fighting knife

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Looking for a short sword/big knife. Double edge, primary as a thruster but also w/ some hacking ability though I subscribe to a thrust driven method. Doubled edged for sure. Looking for something w/ a little more mass than a machete but still lively in the hand.

Purpose: an ideal one handed non-firearm home defense weapon. Not something for concealed carry out & about obviously.

I like the gladius concept. Nice acute point, broad blade makes a gaping wide wound when penetrating & has a little heft so it can do some chopping but still lively & well balanced. I also like straight edges that are very easy to maintain. Strongly preferring a symmetrical double edge. I feel that traditional gladius are a little long though for very CQB. The were probably a good length for fighting w/ the big roman shield, but I am thinking a blade of 12-16" is ideal here.

Would want it to be less than 2' OAL so one could combat (under hand toss) throw.

I found the Gage Custom "tactical gladius" but it is a little pricy.
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I am looking for something less than 300. Could be modern style handle or historic type as long as the blade can take an edge & can take some abuse w/o shattering.

Here is one I like at Kris Cutlery but it is too long. I like the nice straight edges.
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EDIT to OP to include Pics of some things I eventually found along these lines for benefit of someone in the future. All of these have carbon spring steel blades, no SS. You can right click pics to get the image address to lookup them up if you like. These are all Windless Steelcraft spring steel blades from either atlanta cutlery or museum replicas. many of these require $10 or $15 more for factory sharpening.

$95, 12.25" blade:
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$145 14.5" blade:
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$125 17" Blade:
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$59 14" Blade:
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$40 17.5" Blade
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$95 12" Blade
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$70 13 7/8" blade
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$60 17" Blade
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$70 12 7/8" Blade
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$135 16 3/4"
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Atlantacutlery has the "cobra steel lakonia". Overall: 20-1/4". Blade: 14".Wt.: 1lb/7oz..High carbon steel,full tang, rubber handle. Based on the Spartan short sword. Cost $59.95
 
I got this one from Phillip Patton here on the forums. It's about 21" OAL and very tough. Ping him and see if he can make you one without the leaf blade.

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By combat throw, I mean when you cast a knife in an underhand toss where the blade does not make a turn you adjust release timing to adjust for range.

I think you could combat throw a smatchet just fine.

Yes, the smatchet is a compelling weapon. It has a nice acute point for penetration & a really broad blade to make a nice big wound. Would also be awful hard to grab & hold onto if someone attempted to disarm.

Anyone have a source for a bigger smatchet?
 
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tedwca said:
I got this one from Phillip Patton here on the forums. It's about 21" OAL and very tough. Ping him and see if he can make you one without the leaf blade.

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How much did that cost you? I won't bother him it is it too much. That certainly is beautiful. What is his screen name so I could PM him?
 
thanks guys. I didn't know Bussee made a gladius. That would have been some past temporary project right so one would have to be bought from some collector?? I would extend my budget a bit if I could get the busse. The handle doesn't look too long necessarily, though I don't see the need for it as this would be a strictly one hand weapon.

I don't know how to search for users, how do you do that? Thanks for linking Phillips profile for me.

that DQ'd mineral mtn big knife would fit the bill, though I might prefer less belly near the point so I could keep it sharp w/ my poor skills.

I do know a custom maker too I might could have make me something.

Here is a pic if a dagger made by D&L that has the ideal type of blade profile albeit shorter than I am looking for.
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Vulcanite said:
thanks guys. I didn't know Bussee made a gladius. That would have been some past temporary project right so one would have to be bought from some collector?? I would extend my budget a bit if I could get the busse. The handle doesn't look too long necessarily, though I don't see the need for it as this would be a strictly one hand weapon.

I don't know how to search for users, how do you do that? Thanks for linking Phillips profile for me.

that DQ'd mineral mtn big knife would fit the bill, though I might prefer less belly near the point so I could keep it sharp w/ my poor skills.

I do know a custom maker too I might could have make me something.

Here is a pic if a dagger made by D&L that has the ideal type of blade profile albeit shorter than I am looking for.
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I haven't seen too many user Gladius's (not sure of the plural) up for sale although I have seen quite a few new one's in the Busse exchange. The combat grade one's are about half the price of the satin ones. The CG's go for as cheap as $800. I have one and it's a mean blade.
 
edmundl said:
Atlantacutlery has the "cobra steel lakonia". Overall: 20-1/4". Blade: 14".Wt.: 1lb/7oz..High carbon steel,full tang, rubber handle. Based on the Spartan short sword. Cost $59.95
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Thanks for that one...looks like affordable fun!
 
some people, who have been in combat, support throwing knives or hawks in certain limited circumstances. Others are categorically opposed to it. I would only consider it as a last resort but I would like to theoretically keep the option open.

2' is about the longest OAL for me to underhand toss something, but actually I would want something that is 20" or less anyway so I could strap it to my thigh so its out of the way.
 
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