Looking for a finishing stone

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Hey guys,

I currently have the Naniwa Omura 120, and I love it! It cuts but does not leave as course of an edge as you would think. I go right to my King 1k after the Omura, but I need a stone to finish now. I don't want to exceed 4k. I have been looking at the Naniwa Green Brick, but it has been out of stock on Chef knives to go, for some time now (I do want to purchase from Chef knives to go). I have a budget of $100, and no more.
I has been liking the looks of the Nubatama Ume 4k, is that too much of a jump from the King? If not I am open to suggestions.

Thanks as always guys,
 
That definitely not too big of a jump. I go right from my king 1000 to a king 6000. But I also like to take it a step further just for giggles. Chinese 12000 natural. I got all these stones to sharpen my straight razors and then sometime later figured out freehand knife sharpening. I know you said you don't want to exceed 4k the the king 6k is relatively cheap and does an excellent job
 
That definitely not too big of a jump. I go right from my king 1000 to a king 6000. But I also like to take it a step further just for giggles. Chinese 12000 natural. I got all these stones to sharpen my straight razors and then sometime later figured out freehand knife sharpening. I know you said you don't want to exceed 4k the the king 6k is relatively cheap and does an excellent job

Thanks! I will think on it a bit more. I don't like the King 6k, it is very soft, for a finer grit stone I prefer hard.
 
That's very true. It is a little soft. That said, I've had mine for about a year and a half and it's still going strong. I've used it on all 7 of my straight razors and countless knives. Good luck on your quest :)
 
That's very true. It is a little soft. That said, I've had mine for about a year and a half and it's still going strong. I've used it on all 7 of my straight razors and countless knives. Good luck on your quest :)

Thanks, man! :)
 
To be honest the 2000 - 6000 grit range is still sort of in the medium zone. You won't see much of a clear mirror until you hit 8000 JIS.

A Japanese natural in the medium range would likely give you an ok kasumi finish due mostly to the nature of its "natural" abrasive.

Since you want to stay under or around 4000, the Chosera 3000 would likely be a good choice to clean up coarser grit scratch patterns (esp. from the jump from the 150) to get to a mirror finish.
 
Hey guys,

I currently have the Naniwa Omura 120, and I love it! It cuts but does not leave as course of an edge as you would think. I go right to my King 1k after the Omura, but I need a stone to finish now. I don't want to exceed 4k. I have been looking at the Naniwa Green Brick, but it has been out of stock on Chef knives to go, for some time now (I do want to purchase from Chef knives to go). I have a budget of $100, and no more.
I has been liking the looks of the Nubatama Ume 4k, is that too much of a jump from the King? If not I am open to suggestions.

Thanks as always guys,

I'm no expert, but since different makes of waterstone can have very different qualities, and assuming you like the King 1k, I'd get the King 4k. Its only a little less polish than the 6k and works a bit faster. These stones are pretty inexpensive. Any 4k will make the jump from a 1k. I cannot comment on the Nubatama, my 4ks are King and Norton - the Norton 4k is a real nice stone. If moving away from the King 4k, I'd try to pick up a 1k/6k (or 800-1000/4k) pairing from the same line. You might be able to do it with your budget.
 
If you want harder stones then Shapton and Naniwa Chosera are your options. The Chosera stones polish very well but it's more of a dull polish because of the high abrasive content. Softer stones polish much better at lower grits such as 3k because they tend to load which causes a bit of burnishing. The only exception is very sharp abrasives like ceramic or diamond, you can achieve higher levels of "polish" at lower grits because the scratch itself is cut so cleanly.

The Chosera 3k or 5k would be a excellent choice but they are very expensive and the whole line is about to change. CKTG is currently one of the highest priced places to purchase Chosera stones.

The Shapton stones would be a cheaper option and maybe even the better one. Personally, I think the 4k Shapton glass would be a good addition to your set.
 
If you want harder stones then Shapton and Naniwa Chosera are your options. The Chosera stones polish very well but it's more of a dull polish because of the high abrasive content. Softer stones polish much better at lower grits such as 3k because they tend to load which causes a bit of burnishing. The only exception is very sharp abrasives like ceramic or diamond, you can achieve higher levels of "polish" at lower grits because the scratch itself is cut so cleanly.

The Chosera 3k or 5k would be a excellent choice but they are very expensive and the whole line is about to change. CKTG is currently one of the highest priced places to purchase Chosera stones.

The Shapton stones would be a cheaper option and maybe even the better one. Personally, I think the 4k Shapton glass would be a good addition to your set.

Thanks as always, Jason! I think I may take your advice on the Shapton Glass 4k, I have always wanted to try one out anyway, so now I have an excuse to buy one!
Eventually I will want to replace my King, any recommendations for another medium grit stone?
 
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