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Looking for a hatchet
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If the Scout Hatchet doesn't fit in your go bag, your go bag is puny! It's nearly cargo pocket sized. I'd go with the Condor specifically because it has a nice leather edge cover. Though you could go with the Marbles and just make a cardboard mask for it.
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I'd take a look at the crkt woods kangee or however it's spelled. Checkout the one with the hammer head 40$ and it's a beast.
Swedish steel is poor? I may be down on some Scandinavian tools for their exclusivity (and price) but have never criticized their steel. Best there is!
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No disrespect to the Swedish but, I prefer traditional handles versus the throwaway axe if the plastic breaks, the steel based on reviews rolls and chips occasionally
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The guy who does the Wranglerstar videos did a Fiskars test thinking he was going to out it as the junk he always felt it was and it turned out to be a pretty good performer. He looked like he wanted to eat his hat. I'll say that he is a pretty honest guy to go ahead and post it after all the trash talking. Having said that with a traditional handle if you break it you can fix it which means you should probably get an old head and hang it yourself so if the SHTF you know what you're doing when you have to start doing things for yourself, if indeed that is what you are prepping for.
That is something I wouldn't be in a hurry to do. One; the handle is already too short for 2-handed use and Two; the swell/curve/knob at the end ensures you don't have the implement accidentally fly out of your hand on a 'slippery' occasion. Easiest/best is to get another bag! And seriously consider upsizing to a small axe (ie 2-handed operation) which will be considerably better and faster. The head fits in a bag pocket and then you merely secure the exposed haft.
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Don't know what the previous poster's anagram means (and am long-time familiar with SFA, SNAFU lingo etc) but doing your homework and satisfactorily hanging a factory head (new or old) from scratch is something to be very proud of.I see your point.. I have some thinking to do
Whole different game from buying a "fashion exclusive-maybe useful expensive" item.
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According to my research, SHTF has something to do with excrement and ventilation.
And some guy named BOB gets mentioned a lot, in this context.
Ah yes! "And they're off howled the dog after it backed into the fan".
I seriously doubt you'll EVER break the handle of a Fiskars hatchet. If you did, it's because you weren't using it as it was meant to be used. And, IF you did break it somehow, they will send you a replacement for free. You can't always go by "what you heard". I have read FAR more positive reviews on it than negative. Having used it for a week camping in the Rockies, I can add to that positive review list. And it was 25 bucks! But, it kinda sounds like you're just not going to even entertain the idea of owning one, so I guess we'll just leave it at that..
The poor Fiskars...I love my traditional axes and hatchets- vintage and GBA. But I have far more use behind my two Fiskars hactchets because at that time, they were the only new hatchets I could afford. I have done lots of carpentry demo work, pole barn building, fence building and repair. Fair to say I have abused those hatchets beyond what they wee intended for----usually beating the back end with a 2lb 18" handled sledge head, squaring out notches and reliefs. With lighter strikes I can plane down a floor joist. Chisel on a stick, also works as a hatchet and I have been known to chop through a live 120V wire with them- not really on purpose. I have suffered small chips- usually hit a nail or driving the edge through knots in wood.
They are not for everyone or for every use, but they are good tools that work hard. Maybe not legacy tools but they serv their intended purpose.
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Rolls and chips? So one of the finest steel working nations on the planet not only makes their tools too hard (chips) but also too soft (rolls)?
Riiiight.
Go and have a try for yourself before regurgitating such be. I've owned and used a few gransfors bruks axes, which are widely considered the best otb axes on the market (they're only expensive if your converting green money!). And their steels is better than anything else ive used. And I've got/used a lot of Sheffield steel axes, hawks, hatchets and whatever from various price points and countires around the world.
The fiskars, well I've not owned one or played with one for long enough to determine my own opinion.but I dont think I've heard anything bad about them!
This is the beauty, or absolute curse of, the Internet. "They say that he said she said that it's said" carries a lot of weight amongst the touch screen Wikipedia-source Presto generation that is incapable of separating wheat from the chaff on their own.
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The rolling that many experience with the Fiskars are from the factory bevels being so thin. File the rolls out and a stabilized edge results--problem solved.
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Gerber and Fiskars are the same company so y'all better watch out, these brands are in fashion right now. In all fairness though they are both made in China not Sweden though I guess they could still use Swedish steel. The Condor and Marbles use German steel and are manufactured in El Salvador which I'm wondering if that means in the same facility? I don't think Chinese manufacturing is bad although we could argue whether it is good.
It is funny to defend a very forward thinking modern tool by impeaching the validity of modern research methods although I think the criticism is valid. In the end I think that the quality of the Marbles, Condor and Fiskars are probably in line and it probably boils down to whether a warranty or a traditional tool is more important. I'd buy the traditional for personal reasons, ok I'll admit I think they look cooler and I like the idea that tools can be generational, and I don't think that the Fiskars is meant to be that. You break the haft you send it in and get a new one. I'd rather buy a haft and put it on. I think it is silly though to criticise someone who feels they have better things to do with there time.
The best advice I think though would be to buy the Fiskars for the BOB and buy a nice old head and restore it for your destination. You'll want a tool that you can use forever and if something is just going to sit in your trunk until the SHTF then why wouldn't it be something cheap and useful?
It is funny to defend a very forward thinking modern tool by impeaching the validity of modern research methods although I think the criticism is valid. In the end I think that the quality of the Marbles, Condor and Fiskars are probably in line and it probably boils down to whether a warranty or a traditional tool is more important. I'd buy the traditional for personal reasons, ok I'll admit I think they look cooler and I like the idea that tools can be generational, and I don't think that the Fiskars is meant to be that. You break the haft you send it in and get a new one. I'd rather buy a haft and put it on. I think it is silly though to criticise someone who feels they have better things to do with there time.
The best advice I think though would be to buy the Fiskars for the BOB and buy a nice old head and restore it for your destination. You'll want a tool that you can use forever and if something is just going to sit in your trunk until the SHTF then why wouldn't it be something cheap and useful?