Looking for a tough outdoor winter jacket.

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Hello everyone! My name is Mike Hughes and I am a bladesmith in manchester ct. During the winter i freeze my ass off in my shop while working on blades, then freeze my ass off more while at the forge outside! Im looking to get a really nice jacket to help battle the Connecticut cold winters. My budget is around 300$. It needs to be able to take a beating (rain, sleet, cold, random shop debree) and look decent incase i wear it out and about.
So far i have been considering the Filson mackinaw cruser or double mackinaw cruser. Only problem is they are so much money! (But i hear very worth it!)
Any advise on jackets you have had or know of would be appreciated! Thanks for your time!
 
Why not a Carhartt artic? Warm and if you somehow rip them they aren't much to replace.
 
That would be a good choice, to be honest i cant stand the fit of a carhartt (im a skinny guy, 5 ft9 and 135 pounds lol) and those stretchy cuffs around the wrists drive me crazy. Thanks for the imput man!
 
The Filson tin cloth packer coat with one of their mole skin liners is the warmest toughest coat I've ever worn. Many horseback trips in snow and ice and stayed comfortable. Pretty much anything from Filson will last a lifetime and be very comfortable. If you shop around you can get them at pretty reasonable prices too.
 
I have a Filson Mac Cruiser. Actually I have sort of out grown it, if you know what I mean. My wife uses it as her campfire coat now. Close to 30 years old now still looks brand new.

I also have an Empire Wool and Canvas Grey Fox. It is a pullover. Kevin also makes a similar styled jacket.

I have been wearing this almost non-stop for over three years. Hiking coat, wood chopping, snowshoeing, you name it. I can highly recommend Empire's gear.

The Grey Fox offers more freedom of movement. And has a great pocket set for the working man. Wool is cool for your application, because an errant spark wont destroy it.

If you want to make it even more weatherproof. Buy some lanolin at your local health food/hardware store. And set about soaking it in your bathtub. An Empire piece treated in such a way would be a very versatile piece of kit.

Plus it is made right here in the good old USA!

Hope this gives you another option.
 
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I really like the look of the wool grey fox! I have destroyed sweatshirts and many jackets from hot sparks lol That would work perfectly, thanks for the advise guys! Im going to go ahead and order the grey fox and see how i like it.
 
I have a Canadian Milsurp wool shirt that I love and is loved by many trappers and professional woodsman up here in nother Canada. Very similar to the Filson shirt you liked. I thin I paid all of 20 dollars for it. The olive drab isn't the prettiest but it really is a fantastic piece.

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Carhart or helly hansen drillers gear. Nomex shell for sparks, warm and tough as. Sure smurf blue and high vis stripes are not the most dapper of walking around gear, but they do the job.
 
Hello everyone! My name is Mike Hughes and I am a bladesmith in manchester ct. During the winter i freeze my ass off in my shop while working on blades, then freeze my ass off more while at the forge outside! Im looking to get a really nice jacket to help battle the Connecticut cold winters. My budget is around 300$. It needs to be able to take a beating (rain, sleet, cold, random shop debree) and look decent incase i wear it out and about.
So far i have been considering the Filson mackinaw cruser or double mackinaw cruser. Only problem is they are so much money! (But i hear very worth it!)
Any advise on jackets you have had or know of would be appreciated! Thanks for your time!

You just want us to play the role of enabler to buy a Filson, right? Not that there's anything wrong with that!!!


I live in the Boston area and own a couple of hand-me-down Mackinaws. One from Johnson Woolen Mills and another labeled Naraganset, I think from Providence, RI. I also used to work as a ski instructor a loooooooong time ago up in Vermont. Some thoughts....


First, I think you need to think about the outer layer of the jacket and be clear about what sort wear and tear you need to protect against. Canvas (Carhartt and many others) wears well against abrasion and tears but wears out from repeated bending and folding over time. In terms of looks, it goes from crisp to rumbled to tattered.

Wool protects against sparks and doesn't wear from bending (which is why I wear a jacket made in the 1930s) but doesn't stand up to abrasion well. This is why it's common to see old tweed blazers and sweaters with elbow patches.

Heavy duty nlyon like Supplex or better, Ballast cloth can be as abrasion and tear resistant as canvas and won't wear out from bending. It won't stand up to flames and sparks though. It looks good over time so long as you stick to dark stain hiding colors and pick a machine washable jacket.


Second, I would think about warmth. Neither canvas nor nylon is warm, so you need to rely on built-in or layered underneath insulation. Wool is warm on its own but incredibly heavy. I prefer wool for mid layers, as in sweaters, but not as outer layers unless I'm hunting (it's quiet in the pucker bush). Activity also factors into warmth. The warmest jackets I own are longer, hip length. They protect my kidneys and keep me warmer but they are bulkier when driving in the car. My less warm jackets are waist length and are easier to move around in but aren't as warm.


My approach for working at a ski area which I use at home too is to have 2 jackets: at work jacket and a town jacket. At home, I rotate old town jackets into barn coat status. For fall, I like denim or canvas over fleece/wool. For winter, I use what is essentially non-GoreTex insulated ski jackets. I like a single insulated outer jacket and I layer up various fleece/wool layers under that.
 
I have a Canadian Milsurp wool shirt that I love and is loved by many trappers and professional woodsman up here in nother Canada. Very similar to the Filson shirt you liked. I thin I paid all of 20 dollars for it. The olive drab isn't the prettiest but it really is a fantastic piece.

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How hard are these to find?
 
Well they are pretty simple up here. I would check that auction site. It is called a Canadian Military Wool Field Shirt.
 
You can get a Carhartt without the elastic cuffs, I believe the blanket lined chore coat has a button closure and cuff. The Arctic was always too warm for me so I always got those. If it gets too cold I can layer under it.
 
What Neko2 says, improve your layering underneath the "fire-resistant / Nomex jacket" and you will do OK. Wear goose down under clothing, wool socks with insulated boots, and a wool hat.

I live in Florida but I have spent some time in Colorado and Montana in the winter.
 
CT winters..... I would go with a medium insulated canvas type coat similar to carhartt jackets in about one size too large for you to allow for layering beneath. At first it should work sufficiently well for trips to town but eventually you might want something a bit nicer for that.

If I am trying to look dressy (in town), I wear leather and the traditional styles never seem to go out of style (maybe not high fashion). Coats are something that I simply don't wear often and it generally doesn't get that cold in my area. I have a number of coats that I never wear, but I find the cotton outside surfaced coat about as flexible as I need and I add whatever layers seem appropriate.
 
One thought that just popped into my head. Farm stores tend to have the more work style carharts and dickies, and cheaper, fashion and skate shops mark them way up, especially dickies.
 
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