Looking for concealing knives

I have no idea on those throwing knives, I have only owned one and it was really just for fun in the woods. The only advice I have for you is to make sure it is legal to carry those, especially being double sided. You might also get better advice in practical tactical sub forum.

-Alex
 
edwardcode said:
Hey I am looking for a couple good knives to conceal I was looking at
http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-River-Knife-2020-Russell/dp/B00180CYFA
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AG Russell is a famous and well respected knife designer, and the CRKT Sting seems to be a reasonably well built version of one of his boot knife designs. If you wanted to spend more money, you could do better, but for the price its not a bad knife. Two things to keep in mind here, however. One is that in most places in the USA, it will be illegal to carry a double-edged knife like this and if a LEO find it on you, its good for a quick trip to the jail. Second, knives are not inherently very good SD tools, without the the training to use them. Just strapping on a knife will not make you safer, possibly even the opposite.

and some throwing knives on Extremely-sharp.com like this one
http://www.extremely-sharp.com/nokizaru-ninja-silent-throwers.html
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I can't offer any first hand experience with either these particular "knives" or with Extremely-sharp.com, but I can offer a couple of general comments. First, throwing knives are for the circus or movies, not real life self-defence. Second, you can assume any knife with the word "ninja" in the name is a POS until conclusivly proven otherwise. ;)

All that said, if you really feel the need to carry a knife for SD, you are probably better off with a folder. They are easier to carry, generally legal, and just as effective as a fixed blade. Training is still important, however. You might want to look into some local Filipino martial arts schools, as they tend to emphasis knife training much earlier on that many Japanese or Chinese systems do.
 
There are some things you need to consider before you decide which knife to purchase. What are the restrictions in your area on concealed weapons, and will a CWP take care of said restrictions? Are you allowed to carry a double edge blade in your area (permit or not)? What type of clothing do you wear, and will it allow for you to carry your knife of choice easily?

Then you need to decide what you want your knife to do, and which would be suit your needs. Personally, I think carrying any type of throwing knife is a little.....for lack of a better term, Hollywood. I can't think if a situation where having a throwing knife will give you any sort of advantage in an attack. Further, if your assailant is running away and you decide to go Rambo on him and throw your knife at him then you have a whole new set of legal issues. So I guess what I'm asking is, why are you considering a throwing knife at all for personal protection? Just curious as to why you have made that choice.......

As for the site you listed, it seems to be pretty well laid out, but I don't know exactly what your wanting to know about it.

And as for recommendations, I personally tend to prefer to carry folding knives concealed. They are generally easier to conceal, have more practical uses outside of SD applications, and it's a heck of a lot easier to talk your way out of trouble with the law if they find one on you then if your carrying a double edge throwing knife. My exact knife tends to vary, but right now I'm carrying the Darrel Ralph Maxx-Q Tactical from Meyerco and the Boker Plus G4. SOG and Cold Steel make some good entry level SD knives as well. If your looking to get a little more expensive then I highly recommend looking at the Lone Wolf line. I have the T2 and really like it. It's a bit big for concealment though, but they do carry some smaller blades as well. If your going for a fixed blade then I would stay away from double edge blades, it's just too hard to convince a cop that you have only the best, most legal intentions in mind if they find it and start asking questions. Just my $0.02......

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I forgot to mention one thing, as someone else here alluded to. Training is always the most important feature of any SD plan. While the knife is important, if you don't have a clue how to use it then it does you absolutely no good. Carry, deployment, grip, motions, ect must always be considered and you need to continually train with your knife of choice in order to be prepared for when you encounter a SHTF situation. But also realize that no amount of training (or the best knife in the world) will ever guarantee success. So don't think that just because you have a knife and have trained with it that you can walk into any situation and come out without a scratch, cause it's just not gonna happen.
 
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I know the local laws very well in SC there are not size limits for a knife except in a school. So I am good when it comes to that.

The main reason why I want to carry is not really for SD. It has been just something I am looking for. I like knife throwing but what is the point if you do not have any on you to throw.

I am mainly looking for a fixed blade that I can put on my ankle. I do not want the blade to be cheap and I want a nice handle, another important thing is that it has a pretty good release. NOT VELCRO. Like a snap button or like what the Sting has (see link below). Do you have any more ideas.

http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-River-Knife-2020-Russell/dp/B00180CYFA

What do you think about these. FYI this is not related to the fixed blade conversation, I just want your opinion on them if they are ok quality.
http://www.extremely-sharp.com/new-generations-throwing-knife-set.html?quantity=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150422390153&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
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Well I could recommend my current hideaway...A TOPS Knives scalpel. Might work for you too. It's the only fixed blade I have really, really carried. It's a sharp tool and at the same time, in a pinch it might get the job done. Easy to sharpen and built to last.

Nice grip on it too...unless you have big hands. The nice young man who previously owned it, also carried it until he got a Spyderco Ronin.
 
Same problem. Unless you're in a very obscure area, those knives are probably illegal to carry, open or concealed. Two edges equal one dagger, which is a dedicated weapon which can't be explained for anything but your offensive intent. Also, what's the local length limit? For example, I'm in Illinois, and all of the knives you've shown are illegal because of their blade length, let alone the fact almost all of them are double edged. And that's just if I get patted down and the officer finds one, if he finds multiple ones ready to be grabbed or thrown...I'm spending some time behind bars until they make sure I'm not a danger to society. That's just carrying it, USING one of these for your intended purpose...There have been cases where the defendant (A certified CCW permit holder) wearing a 'Killing is my business' tee shirt some one had bought him as a joke came into play, and even though he'd fired in self defense they raked him over the coals as a sociopath. Now, imagine if he was found with daggers on his ankles.

Training comes before the toys. You're buying a car before you've even taken drivers ed. First, go through every other option you have, because using of these things is getting you in cuffs no matter what, it's up to the judge or jury whether you get the free jumpsuit and concrete condo. Once you have built up some awareness, empty hand skills, evasion and legal studies, give yourself a long-term goal to get competent with a style, system, or method and then select the tool that compliments your new ability.
 
frontline29 said:
I own the kABAR/TDI ankle knife and it works great.
The ankle holster is super comfortable and very secure.
When I wear it I barely notice it's there.
It also has great moisture wicking,because I tend not to sweat underneath it.

Here's a link to the knife.
You get the knife with the rig for around 45$

http://www.tomarskabars.com/TDI_LAW_ENFORCEMENT_3.html
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Just about to recommend this! i have the large TDI but it sits on my waist. (its the last one on the second page of that link) I dont always carry it though, just when i go into the woods or something.
I have 5 throwing knives, let me just say they arent really for carrying around. they get in the way. I use them out in my backyard and i keep them on my waist so i can get to them easier. lets just say when you lean over to pick up a missed throw, the other ones will dig into your side. I have a Valor Throwing dart and 3 gil hibben clone throwing knives. They are fun to use just not carry. Get a cheap set to throw around or make your own! i used some old steak knives and made some really damn good throwing knives out of them.
 
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