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RLB0414

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I believe 2004 was considered the Silver Anniversary of the brand, hence the fancy 1 of 11 stamping. The covers look like celluloid, which is a material that unfortunately breaks down through outgassing. This is why the covers have shrunk away from the bolsters. It can also rust the blades, so best to leave celluloid knives out in the open, not in boxes or drawers.
 
black mamba said:
I believe 2004 was considered the Silver Anniversary of the brand, hence the fancy 1 of 11 stamping. The covers look like celluloid, which is a material that unfortunately breaks down through outgassing. This is why the covers have shrunk away from the bolsters. It can also rust the blades, so best to leave celluloid knives out in the open, not in boxes or drawers.
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Thank you for the information. This is not a brand I am familiar with and very little useful info on the web or at least I was not able to find it,
 
RLB0414 said:
I could not find much info on the brand. Trying to determine what I inherited.
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Found on the web


"Charlie Dorton brought the Bulldog Brand to life in 1978. He began importing them from the Olbertz factory in Germany until 1987. The brand went extinct for a few years until Jim Parker bought it in 1991 and resurrected the brand under the Parker Knife Co. umbrella.

The first generation knives are the originals from the Olberts factory. They were made there at the same time as Eye Brand and Fight'n Rooster. Many similarities can be seen in knife branded with these three names made in that era.

The second generation knives came shortly after Jim Parker bought the brand. He used old parts from the Olberts factory & had them assembled & finished.

The third generation to most recent production examples came about when Parker started having his own knives made with a Fighting Dog stamp. that gave way to a standing dog trademark in 1995 & then returned to the Fighting dogs stamp shortly after the year 2000. Great Eastern Cutlery was contracted to make yet another go with the brand most recently."
 
SteveC said:
Found on the web


"Charlie Dorton brought the Bulldog Brand to life in 1978. He began importing them from the Olbertz factory in Germany until 1987. The brand went extinct for a few years until Jim Parker bought it in 1991 and resurrected the brand under the Parker Knife Co. umbrella.

The first generation knives are the originals from the Olberts factory. They were made there at the same time as Eye Brand and Fight'n Rooster. Many similarities can be seen in knife branded with these three names made in that era.

The second generation knives came shortly after Jim Parker bought the brand. He used old parts from the Olberts factory & had them assembled & finished.

The third generation to most recent production examples came about when Parker started having his own knives made with a Fighting Dog stamp. that gave way to a standing dog trademark in 1995 & then returned to the Fighting dogs stamp shortly after the year 2000. Great Eastern Cutlery was contracted to make yet another go with the brand most recently."
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Thanks.
I was able to locate similar and it seemed "cook book" if you will.
Was hoping to find out when production in Germany stopped and get an impression from porch members on these knives and their quality.
I could not find anything for 2004 production year items on any auction house sites.
Thanks again
 
Rick, I've always thought the Olbertz knives were among the very best of German built traditionals. All the Bulldog knives I've owned have been of very high quality.
 
I have had some Bulldog Brand and my finest Premium Stockman is a Fight'N Rooster Stockman. I'd put the quality right up there with my GEC pocketknives (pretty high quality). OH
 
black mamba said:
Rick, I've always thought the Olbertz knives were among the very best of German built traditionals. All the Bulldog knives I've owned have been of very high quality.
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Jeff, thanks. Did that change from original owner to new owner? Not sure I will do with the knife. I am not a collector nor do I have any of this brand so I appreciate your input.
Old Hunter said:
I have had some Bulldog Brand and my finest Premium Stockman is a Fight'N Rooster Stockman. I'd put the quality right up there with my GEC pocketknives (pretty high quality). OH
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Bruce, thanks. Says a lot about the quality.
 
I've had some Bulldog knives which were subpar, (regarding steel and heat treat), from the Parker era. In fact I had contacted Parker about them and sent them back to him as a result.
 
From the web. Have forgotten the source.

Bulldog Brand Knife History
Charlie Dorton had the first Bulldog Brand Knife produced in 1978 in the Friedrich Olbertz Factory in Solingen West Germany. Bulldog Brand Knives are still produced in the same factory. Bulldog Knives have five important periods in their existence; collectors refer to them as different generations.
First Generation. 1978 – 1987; Thirty two different patterns were produced. Out of 32 patterns came 469 styles. A Bulldog Brand Knife Collectors Club was formed in the early 1980’s and a number was assigned to each knife as it went to a customer. There were no Bulldog knives shipped into the United States from late 1987 to 1992.
Second Generation. 1991 – 1992; Jim Parker purchased the Bulldog Brand Knife Company. In 1992 the Olbertz factory shipped about 7,000 Bulldog knives to the USA. Later, some knife parts were purchased from Blue Grass Cutlery to complete additional Bulldog knife sets.
Third Generation. 1993 – 1995; 17 new knife patterns were ordered from the Olbertz factory and 5 new handle materials were introduced. Oyster Shell handle material and Lady Leg knives were introduced in this year. The third generation knives ended the era of the two “Fighting Dogs” stamp.
Fourth Generation. 1996 - Early 2000; Jim Parker commissioned an artist to draw “Lucky” Mrs. Parkers purple ribbon bred American Pit Bull Terrier. This drawing appeared as the new Bulldog Knives trademark in 1996.
Fifth Generation. 2000-2003; According to Jim Parker’s Pocket Knife Traders Price Guide, the double dog head stamp was introduced around this time.
2004 Silver Anniversary; This is the Year of the Reintroduction of the “Fighting Dog” Tang Stamp. 25 Year – Silver Anniversary of Bulldog Brand Knives
2005 – 2008; February 2005, Bulldog Brand Knives retired the Double Dog Head Tang Stamp, and replaced it with a single Fighting Bulldog Stamp.
A trademark has to be used every three years to keep it active, so a few knives with the rare two “Fighting Dogs” stamp are released every few years.
The Bull Dog Brand Knives are 100% Completely Handmade in Solingen, Germany by Master Cutlers. Each Carbon steel blade is individually hammer-forged with over 240 hand operations going into each knife, then each blade is reverse frost etched with the Double Dog Head logo. Nickel Silver Pins and Shield, and Brass Liners add to the top quality craftsmanship.
Source: "Pocket Knife Trader's Price Guide Volume 8" By: James "Buzz" Parker and Ed Henley
Sixth Generation – 2009 to Present; Bulldog Brand USA Knives are being manufactured by Great Eastern Cutlery in Titusville, PA and models are product by Queen Cutlery in Titusville, PA. Bulldog Brand USA Knives are high quality Knives, made in the USA, that carry on the Bulldog Brand Legacy.
 
Modoc ED said:
From the web. Have forgotten the source.

Bulldog Brand Knife History
Charlie Dorton had the first Bulldog Brand Knife produced in 1978 in the Friedrich Olbertz Factory in Solingen West Germany. Bulldog Brand Knives are still produced in the same factory. Bulldog Knives have five important periods in their existence; collectors refer to them as different generations.
First Generation. 1978 – 1987; Thirty two different patterns were produced. Out of 32 patterns came 469 styles. A Bulldog Brand Knife Collectors Club was formed in the early 1980’s and a number was assigned to each knife as it went to a customer. There were no Bulldog knives shipped into the United States from late 1987 to 1992.
Second Generation. 1991 – 1992; Jim Parker purchased the Bulldog Brand Knife Company. In 1992 the Olbertz factory shipped about 7,000 Bulldog knives to the USA. Later, some knife parts were purchased from Blue Grass Cutlery to complete additional Bulldog knife sets.
Third Generation. 1993 – 1995; 17 new knife patterns were ordered from the Olbertz factory and 5 new handle materials were introduced. Oyster Shell handle material and Lady Leg knives were introduced in this year. The third generation knives ended the era of the two “Fighting Dogs” stamp.
Fourth Generation. 1996 - Early 2000; Jim Parker commissioned an artist to draw “Lucky” Mrs. Parkers purple ribbon bred American Pit Bull Terrier. This drawing appeared as the new Bulldog Knives trademark in 1996.
Fifth Generation. 2000-2003; According to Jim Parker’s Pocket Knife Traders Price Guide, the double dog head stamp was introduced around this time.
2004 Silver Anniversary; This is the Year of the Reintroduction of the “Fighting Dog” Tang Stamp. 25 Year – Silver Anniversary of Bulldog Brand Knives
2005 – 2008; February 2005, Bulldog Brand Knives retired the Double Dog Head Tang Stamp, and replaced it with a single Fighting Bulldog Stamp.
A trademark has to be used every three years to keep it active, so a few knives with the rare two “Fighting Dogs” stamp are released every few years.
The Bull Dog Brand Knives are 100% Completely Handmade in Solingen, Germany by Master Cutlers. Each Carbon steel blade is individually hammer-forged with over 240 hand operations going into each knife, then each blade is reverse frost etched with the Double Dog Head logo. Nickel Silver Pins and Shield, and Brass Liners add to the top quality craftsmanship.
Source: "Pocket Knife Trader's Price Guide Volume 8" By: James "Buzz" Parker and Ed Henley
Sixth Generation – 2009 to Present; Bulldog Brand USA Knives are being manufactured by Great Eastern Cutlery in Titusville, PA and models are product by Queen Cutlery in Titusville, PA. Bulldog Brand USA Knives are high quality Knives, made in the USA, that carry on the Bulldog Brand Legacy.
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Thank you sir.
 
Cal, your hunter looks like 1st gen to me and further, the bone looks very similar to this 1978 Fight'n Rooster, also made by Olbertz. I'd say late '70s to early '80s.

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Modoc ED said:
From the web. Have forgotten the source.

Bulldog Brand Knife History
Charlie Dorton had the first Bulldog Brand Knife produced in 1978 in the Friedrich Olbertz Factory in Solingen West Germany. Bulldog Brand Knives are still produced in the same factory. Bulldog Knives have five important periods in their existence; collectors refer to them as different generations.
First Generation. 1978 – 1987; Thirty two different patterns were produced. Out of 32 patterns came 469 styles. A Bulldog Brand Knife Collectors Club was formed in the early 1980’s and a number was assigned to each knife as it went to a customer. There were no Bulldog knives shipped into the United States from late 1987 to 1992.
Second Generation. 1991 – 1992; Jim Parker purchased the Bulldog Brand Knife Company. In 1992 the Olbertz factory shipped about 7,000 Bulldog knives to the USA. Later, some knife parts were purchased from Blue Grass Cutlery to complete additional Bulldog knife sets.
Third Generation. 1993 – 1995; 17 new knife patterns were ordered from the Olbertz factory and 5 new handle materials were introduced. Oyster Shell handle material and Lady Leg knives were introduced in this year. The third generation knives ended the era of the two “Fighting Dogs” stamp.
Fourth Generation. 1996 - Early 2000; Jim Parker commissioned an artist to draw “Lucky” Mrs. Parkers purple ribbon bred American Pit Bull Terrier. This drawing appeared as the new Bulldog Knives trademark in 1996.
Fifth Generation. 2000-2003; According to Jim Parker’s Pocket Knife Traders Price Guide, the double dog head stamp was introduced around this time.
2004 Silver Anniversary; This is the Year of the Reintroduction of the “Fighting Dog” Tang Stamp. 25 Year – Silver Anniversary of Bulldog Brand Knives
2005 – 2008; February 2005, Bulldog Brand Knives retired the Double Dog Head Tang Stamp, and replaced it with a single Fighting Bulldog Stamp.
A trademark has to be used every three years to keep it active, so a few knives with the rare two “Fighting Dogs” stamp are released every few years.
The Bull Dog Brand Knives are 100% Completely Handmade in Solingen, Germany by Master Cutlers. Each Carbon steel blade is individually hammer-forged with over 240 hand operations going into each knife, then each blade is reverse frost etched with the Double Dog Head logo. Nickel Silver Pins and Shield, and Brass Liners add to the top quality craftsmanship.
Source: "Pocket Knife Trader's Price Guide Volume 8" By: James "Buzz" Parker and Ed Henley
Sixth Generation – 2009 to Present; Bulldog Brand USA Knives are being manufactured by Great Eastern Cutlery in Titusville, PA and models are product by Queen Cutlery in Titusville, PA. Bulldog Brand USA Knives are high quality Knives, made in the USA, that carry on the Bulldog Brand Legacy.
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I'd take some of that Parker information with a grain of salt!!
The GEC made ones have proven quality!! OP you should get rid of that failing celluloid, and get that knife rehandled if you wish to preserve that knife!!
(edited to add): I have seen failing celluloid eat the liners of a knife IN HALF!! Catastrophic!! 😮
 
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waynorth said:
OP you should get rid of that failing celluloid, and get that knife rehandled if you wish to preserve that knife!!
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Thank you.
This is the rub. Knife has no value, sentimental or otherwise to me. I am not a collector and not really a fan of the pattern. For now it will stay out in the open air.
 
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