Looking for input on new phone choices...

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I have had my Motorola Droid Mini for over two years, and it has been a great phone. There isn't hardly a mark on it, but it is time to upgrade, so I'm trying to narrow down my choices...

I wanted to go with the Motorola Turbo, mainly because I've always had good luck with Motorolas, but after looking at one today, I was less than impressed.

So I started looking at the Samsung S6, S6 Edge, and S6 Edge+. I like the look and feel of all of them. The Motorola felt cheap because it was substantially lighter than the others...

I use my phone as a phone, for texting and taking pictures. I don't play games on my phone. Maybe I would if I tried it, but I never have.
I'm looking for input from those that have one of these models, and am wanting to find out what the real differences are...

I had thought about looking at the Apple i6 too. I know a few people that have them, and really like them, but I am use to the Droid platform, and I've heard the Apples are quite a bit different. I know they get a lot of hype and have a huge following, but I don't know if it is warranted, or just a cult following because it is an Apple product.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am probably going to get one before the end of the week....
 
I think I'm going to take a good hard look at the iphone 7 when it comes out,I have the Sam sung S4 now and it's a pretty good phone but it has issues synching to my MacBook Pro and I have a lot of problems down loading my photos from my S4.The Geek squad guys said if I buy an apple phone next time around my problems will be solved as far as down loading pics.I'm thinking it also should be able to take some pretty good pics also.
 
Thanks Scott. I wonder if the Samsung 6 has issues with pictures ? My Droid Mini is awesome for downloading pics, and I don't want to lose that capability...

I don't know very much about the Apple phones. I wonder how the 6 will compare to the 7 ? It seems like Apple comes out with a different phone every 6-8 months.
The thing that amazes me is how much used Apple phones sell for.
 
I've had a Samsung S5 for about 1.5 years now, and really like it. I have no issues downloading pictures to my computer, and my phone can take really good pictures.

I love the large phone format. I pretty much use my phone for everything I used to do on the PC (except type this response, since that's still kinda awkward): watching movies, listening to music/podcasts, looking at Facebook, looking up stuff on the Internet, playing games, and email, as well as texting, maps, geocaching, and making the occasional phone call.

When I'm able to upgrade next April, I'll be getting the Samsung Note 5. I like the Note a little better than the S6/S6Edge/S6+, because it's got a stylus that you can take notes right on the screen with.
 
I've had a Samsung S5 for about 1.5 years now, and really like it. I have no issues downloading pictures to my computer, and my phone can take really good pictures.

I love the large phone format. I pretty much use my phone for everything I used to do on the PC (except type this response, since that's still kinda awkward): watching movies, listening to music/podcasts, looking at Facebook, looking up stuff on the Internet, playing games, and email, as well as texting, maps, geocaching, and making the occasional phone call.

When I'm able to upgrade next April, I'll be getting the Samsung Note 5. I like the Note a little better than the S6/S6Edge/S6+, because it's got a stylus that you can take notes right on the screen with.

I did look at the 5S too. My wife and son got the Note 4 a few months ago, and really like it.
I did read some more reviews last night and it seems the 6S has had issues with the auto rotate feature. The reviews for the 6 Edge and the 6+ didn't mention this issue.
While the Motorola Turbo didn't feel as good as the Samsung, the reviews for it are great.
 
I have the new Galaxy S6 now and had the original Motorola MotoX before this S6. If I could go back in time I would honestly have gotten the 2014 edition MotoX or if I was in the market for a new phone right now I would get the new Motorola MotoX Pure. I was thinking about selling my S6 for the Pure just yesterday actually. The S6 is a very nice phone in the sense it feels like quality and is very thin but the software on it drives me insane. It sometimes lags with the most simple of tasks and is as bad as Windows 8 as far as constantly having updates which fix yesterdays issue but then always seem to create a new issue. I'm really not sold on the Samsung hype and really miss Motorola. S6 takes awesome pictures that look even better than my wife's Iphone 6 but the battery life sucks, lag issues and sometimes likes to freeze then reboot and I hate having the speaker on the bottom of the phone which makes watching videos weird and I have to cup my hand on the bottom to direct the sound out towards my face. The thing I loved about my MotoX is how they keep the Android operating system pretty much pure how it was meant to be from Google. Samsung likes to change everything and put their own "Touchwiz" software on top of Google's Android which doesn't always work out well and it what causes it to be slow and glitchy at times. Google also has a couple new Nexxus phones coming out pretty soon that look promising. Another cool aspect of last years MotoX and the new MotoX Pure is you can get wood or leather backs on the phone. If you get the natural leather back it will age and take on a patina that looks amazing in time.
 
If you liked your moto, then you will likely get annoyed by samsung. Go for a motoX if its within your budget, or a motoG as a good cheaper option, they are reviewing really well. The Samsung edge phones are not reviewing as well with people who have big hands, or those who use their phones outside a lot, as the edge bar gets bumped really easily if you are not careful. I'd give it a miss.

Apple runs a one year update cycle, big update, then smaller (S versions) No need to change to a much more expensive phone unless you need some Apple feature, or are using a Mac for most of your stuff.
 
I have the new Galaxy S6 now and had the original Motorola MotoX before this S6. If I could go back in time I would honestly have gotten the 2014 edition MotoX or if I was in the market for a new phone right now I would get the new Motorola MotoX Pure. I was thinking about selling my S6 for the Pure just yesterday actually. The S6 is a very nice phone in the sense it feels like quality and is very thin but the software on it drives me insane. It sometimes lags with the most simple of tasks and is as bad as Windows 8 as far as constantly having updates which fix yesterdays issue but then always seem to create a new issue. I'm really not sold on the Samsung hype and really miss Motorola. S6 takes awesome pictures that look even better than my wife's Iphone 6 but the battery life sucks, lag issues and sometimes likes to freeze then reboot and I hate having the speaker on the bottom of the phone which makes watching videos weird and I have to cup my hand on the bottom to direct the sound out towards my face. The thing I loved about my MotoX is how they keep the Android operating system pretty much pure how it was meant to be from Google. Samsung likes to change everything and put their own "Touchwiz" software on top of Google's Android which doesn't always work out well and it what causes it to be slow and glitchy at times. Google also has a couple new Nexxus phones coming out pretty soon that look promising. Another cool aspect of last years MotoX and the new MotoX Pure is you can get wood or leather backs on the phone. If you get the natural leather back it will age and take on a patina that looks amazing in time.

I think I'm going to steer away from the S6. I'm not sure why, but I didn't even look at the MotoX. I just checked on Verizons website, and the reviews for the MotoX are very good... Verizon doesn't list the MotoX Pure though :(

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it...

If you liked your moto, then you will likely get annoyed by samsung. Go for a motoX if its within your budget, or a motoG as a good cheaper option, they are reviewing really well. The Samsung edge phones are not reviewing as well with people who have big hands, or those who use their phones outside a lot, as the edge bar gets bumped really easily if you are not careful. I'd give it a miss.

Apple runs a one year update cycle, big update, then smaller (S versions) No need to change to a much more expensive phone unless you need some Apple feature, or are using a Mac for most of your stuff.

That's good info to know. The Edge may not work well for me because I spend a lot of time outside, and I have big hands.
 
I did some searching last night and Motorola is coming out with the new 6.0 Android system on a lot of the models for 2016.
They are also coming out with the Turbo 2, which is supposed to be even better than the current Turbo version. The only thing that makes me apprehensive is new versions usually always have some glitches, but supposedly they have had great results from the new system. However, the MotoX Gen 2 at Verizon probably won't be getting the update.

I may hold off because the new versions are supposedly going to be in stores by the end of this month, but we all know how new releases work lol...

The only negative thing I could find about the current version MotoX is the camera. Some said it isn't very good, but they also said the same thing about the Droid Mini that I have, and the camera is actually decent.
 
You're talking about Droids, so you must be with Verizon.

The Droid Turbo is pretty good, but like you said, the Turbo 2 is soon to come out. I'm not too enthusiastic about it though (if the rumors are true), as it's said to have the Snapdragon 810, which is plagued with overheating and performance (thermal throttling) issues.

The Moto X Pure won't be listed on Verizon's (or any carriers') site because it's sold unlocked direct from Motorola (or Amazon or BestBuy or wherever). Unlike other unlocked phones (save the Nexus 6), these will work on Verizon, you just have to go through a process of registering the IMEI in their system. The Moto X Pure is a device I'm heavily considering myself. The screen is super-bright (and big!), it has dual front-facing stereo speakers, and good build quality. The reviews I've read say that camera is good, but a step below the Galaxy S6 (and its current relatives) and the LG G4, likely due to the lack of optical image stabilization. Plus, being a Moto X, you can use the Moto Maker to completely customize the colors, and even get a leather or hardwood (bamboo, walnut, ebony, blackwood) back, plus choose 16/32/64gb of base storage, which can be complimented with a microSD card. Since it's a Motorola, the interface is basically stock Android (with some handy additions), so you're not bombarded with useless crap and "features", and the phone won't get bogged down with them either. It'll receive quick security and OS updates. Best of all, since it's sold unlocked, there will be no carrier bloatware. And not being tied down to carriers, updates will come directly from Motorola, without Verizon's typically incessant and slow meddling delaying them.

The Galaxy S6 line includes some amazing devices, with the most powerful chip available on the market, and the best cell phone camera you can get (tied with the LG G4). But while the build quality has turned premium (to compete with Apple), this comes at the sacrifice of practical features, like a microSD card slot and a removable battery. Plus, if you liked the interface of your Droid Mini, you'll probably hate Samsung's TouchWiz interface. So many redundant features, so many useless ones, and the menus are infuriatingly convoluted and unintuitive. The fingerprint scanner is cool though.

Any reason you're not considering the LG G4? As I said, its camera is only matched by the Galaxy S6/Note 5. Plus there's the microSD card slot and the removable battery. Having a removable battery is a huge advantage in the long run. Over time the battery degrades. After about 500 cycles, you'll have lost upwards of 20% the battery's original capacity. The new Samsungs are practically impossible to replace the battery on your own. The Motorolas are less difficult, but still not as easy as simply going on eBay and ordering a new one that you can pop in and out, which you can with the G4. Plus, a spare is never a bad thing to have around. LG's interface isn't exactly stock Android, but I've found it to be much more intuitive and far less frustrating and messy than TouchWiz.

My personal recommendation to you, based on what you've said, would be get the Moto X Pure. Max out the base storage, and choose a wood back option. Even if you put it in a case, it's still cool. Completely tricked out, you're looking at $525, which is far less than any flagship Samsung or iPhone. The interface will be completely familiar, zero Verizon bloat, quick updates, and a great multimedia experience. The one caveat is that you have to buy one outright; no contract subsidizing.

2nd recommendation would be the LG G4 because of its superlative camera, expandable storage, and removable battery. My dad (65 years old) just asked me about getting his first ever smartphone (a question I've been dreading). But he definitely did his research, and had it narrowed down to to the LG G4 and the Galaxy S6 Edge+, leaning towards the G4. I told him the G4 would have been my recommendation even if he hadn't done his research. You can subsidize it over a contract, and since LG is floundering a bit in the market, the price is less than Samsung and Apple.



As for Apple, I highly doubt you'll enjoy it, if you've been using Android for years. My own opinions with Apple and iOS aside, you'll be finding yourself frustrated as to why you can't do things you could easily do with Android, and why you can't do other things at all. No custom launchers, no widgets (well, sorta, in the notification dropdown), and the homescreens are just a mess of app icons that you can't do anything with but rearrange. Whereas with Android, the possibilities are limitless. Plus, there's no simple drag-and-drop file system (either on the phone or when connected to a PC), and if you want to do anything with videos or music, you have to deal that the infinitely insufferable iTunes.
 
You're talking about Droids, so you must be with Verizon.

The Droid Turbo is pretty good, but like you said, the Turbo 2 is soon to come out. I'm not too enthusiastic about it though (if the rumors are true), as it's said to have the Snapdragon 810, which is plagued with overheating and performance (thermal throttling) issues.

The Moto X Pure won't be listed on Verizon's (or any carriers') site because it's sold unlocked direct from Motorola (or Amazon or BestBuy or wherever). Unlike other unlocked phones (save the Nexus 6), these will work on Verizon, you just have to go through a process of registering the IMEI in their system. The Moto X Pure is a device I'm heavily considering myself. The screen is super-bright (and big!), it has dual front-facing stereo speakers, and good build quality. The reviews I've read say that camera is good, but a step below the Galaxy S6 (and its current relatives) and the LG G4, likely due to the lack of optical image stabilization. Plus, being a Moto X, you can use the Moto Maker to completely customize the colors, and even get a leather or hardwood (bamboo, walnut, ebony, blackwood) back, plus choose 16/32/64gb of base storage, which can be complimented with a microSD card. Since it's a Motorola, the interface is basically stock Android (with some handy additions), so you're not bombarded with useless crap and "features", and the phone won't get bogged down with them either. It'll receive quick security and OS updates. Best of all, since it's sold unlocked, there will be no carrier bloatware. And not being tied down to carriers, updates will come directly from Motorola, without Verizon's typically incessant and slow meddling delaying them.

The Galaxy S6 line includes some amazing devices, with the most powerful chip available on the market, and the best cell phone camera you can get (tied with the LG G4). But while the build quality has turned premium (to compete with Apple), this comes at the sacrifice of practical features, like a microSD card slot and a removable battery. Plus, if you liked the interface of your Droid Mini, you'll probably hate Samsung's TouchWiz interface. So many redundant features, so many useless ones, and the menus are infuriatingly convoluted and unintuitive. The fingerprint scanner is cool though.

Any reason you're not considering the LG G4? As I said, its camera is only matched by the Galaxy S6/Note 5. Plus there's the microSD card slot and the removable battery. Having a removable battery is a huge advantage in the long run. Over time the battery degrades. After about 500 cycles, you'll have lost upwards of 20% the battery's original capacity. The new Samsungs are practically impossible to replace the battery on your own. The Motorolas are less difficult, but still not as easy as simply going on eBay and ordering a new one that you can pop in and out, which you can with the G4. Plus, a spare is never a bad thing to have around. LG's interface isn't exactly stock Android, but I've found it to be much more intuitive and far less frustrating and messy than TouchWiz.

My personal recommendation to you, based on what you've said, would be get the Moto X Pure. Max out the base storage, and choose a wood back option. Even if you put it in a case, it's still cool. Completely tricked out, you're looking at $525, which is far less than any flagship Samsung or iPhone. The interface will be completely familiar, zero Verizon bloat, quick updates, and a great multimedia experience. The one caveat is that you have to buy one outright; no contract subsidizing.

2nd recommendation would be the LG G4 because of its superlative camera, expandable storage, and removable battery. My dad (65 years old) just asked me about getting his first ever smartphone (a question I've been dreading). But he definitely did his research, and had it narrowed down to to the LG G4 and the Galaxy S6 Edge+, leaning towards the G4. I told him the G4 would have been my recommendation even if he hadn't done his research. You can subsidize it over a contract, and since LG is floundering a bit in the market, the price is less than Samsung and Apple.



As for Apple, I highly doubt you'll enjoy it, if you've been using Android for years. My own opinions with Apple and iOS aside, you'll be finding yourself frustrated as to why you can't do things you could easily do with Android, and why you can't do other things at all. No custom launchers, no widgets (well, sorta, in the notification dropdown), and the homescreens are just a mess of app icons that you can't do anything with but rearrange. Whereas with Android, the possibilities are limitless. Plus, there's no simple drag-and-drop file system (either on the phone or when connected to a PC), and if you want to do anything with videos or music, you have to deal that the infinitely insufferable iTunes.

That was a great read. Thanks for taking the time to write all of that...

Yes, I am with Verizon. We have been with them for about 6 years. I did read a little about the Pure last night, and that is definitely a possibility.
As far as not considering the LG, in all honesty, my knowledge of phones is rather limited, and I'm a creature of habit. It takes a lot for me to change, and I've had really good luck with my other Motorolas. I didn't research anything other than Motorola and Samsung, and the only reason I looked into Samsung was because my wife and son like theirs.

I will take a look at it though. I've heard people are happy with the quality of most LG products, so I would guess their phones are probably the same.
The story I read about the Turbo 2 did mention the Snapdragon, but in all honesty I don't have a clue what that means lol.. I do like the idea of being able
to order a phone with a custom back. That is a neat program.
 
I have had an iPhone since version 3 until last month when I switched to a Samsung Note 5. (I really like the option of having a stylus.) I basically got tired of waiting for Apple to innovate again.

I'm OK with either IOS or Android, but Android does more if you are a "power" user.
 
I use Apple products. An iPhone 5 and an iPad. Both are company issued and both chosen by the company for security reasons.

That said, get the Android and don't fall for the Apple hype. My wife and both kids have Android phones and tablets. I'd switch today if given a chance.

My Apple products are reliable and easy to use. The security is there too but the proprietary BS and frustrating issues I have with them make me like them a little less.
 
I have had an iPhone since version 3 until last month when I switched to a Samsung Note 5. (I really like the option of having a stylus.) I basically got tired of waiting for Apple to innovate again.

I'm OK with either IOS or Android, but Android does more if you are a "power" user.

I'm not a power user, and I've been happy with Android.

I use Apple products. An iPhone 5 and an iPad. Both are company issued and both chosen by the company for security reasons.

That said, get the Android and don't fall for the Apple hype. My wife and both kids have Android phones and tablets. I'd switch today if given a chance.

My Apple products are reliable and easy to use. The security is there too but the proprietary BS and frustrating issues I have with them make me like them a little less.

I'm definitely staying with the Android. It was easy for me to learn, and I have never felt like it was lacking anything
 
I'm on vacation and drove from CA to Az, we stopped at about 4 campgrounds, few hikes, and random sight seeing.
My galaxy s5 has given me reception and 4g nearly everywhere, i got no signal maybe twice between some massive mountain/canyons.
There's 2 iPhone 6's here as well, they've been borrowing my phone...

I'd tell you to get an iPhone since I'm an investor, but clearly my galaxy is triumphant in the boonies, not saying iPhone is a bad phone, both are great phones, unless you're out in the woods, then galaxy wins EASILY.
 
One other thing I've been reading recently about the S6 and S6 edge, battery life is a bit of a worry, with the edge being the worse of the two. Androids always get the short end of the battery stick, its the price for so many features. But worth considering if you do stuff away from the AC, and can't "club nap" your phone.
 
I have the new Galaxy S6 now and had the original Motorola MotoX before this S6. If I could go back in time I would honestly have gotten the 2014 edition MotoX or if I was in the market for a new phone right now I would get the new Motorola MotoX Pure. I was thinking about selling my S6 for the Pure just yesterday actually. The S6 is a very nice phone in the sense it feels like quality and is very thin but the software on it drives me insane. It sometimes lags with the most simple of tasks and is as bad as Windows 8 as far as constantly having updates which fix yesterdays issue but then always seem to create a new issue. I'm really not sold on the Samsung hype and really miss Motorola. S6 takes awesome pictures that look even better than my wife's Iphone 6 but the battery life sucks, lag issues and sometimes likes to freeze then reboot and I hate having the speaker on the bottom of the phone which makes watching videos weird and I have to cup my hand on the bottom to direct the sound out towards my face. The thing I loved about my MotoX is how they keep the Android operating system pretty much pure how it was meant to be from Google. Samsung likes to change everything and put their own "Touchwiz" software on top of Google's Android which doesn't always work out well and it what causes it to be slow and glitchy at times. Google also has a couple new Nexxus phones coming out pretty soon that look promising. Another cool aspect of last years MotoX and the new MotoX Pure is you can get wood or leather backs on the phone. If you get the natural leather back it will age and take on a patina that looks amazing in time.

Somehow I missed reading your post earlier (must be the block-of-text thing, no offense), but I'm with you 100% on everything. I've had 2 Samsungs, and one was just awful. Granted, it was a low-end (Galaxy Light), but its performance was far less than it should have been considering its specs, especially compared to something like the 1st gen Moto G. There was development into CyanogenMod, which I tried, and performance was flawless. But development was abandoned before it was 100% stable with all components/features working. Eventually the thing pissed me off for the last time, and I Hulk-smashed it.

My other Samsung is a S4 that I picked up for $70. I have zero performance issues, but I'm running a custom ROM on it - it's still TouchWiz, but streamlined and optimized, and a custom kernel.

Obviously, I don't expect others to be flashing custom firmwares simply to make their phone work properly.

Stock Android is why devices like the Moto E and G line work without stutter with very modest specs. There's videos on youtube showing the Moto E loading apps and switching tasks faster than the S5, a device that's (on paper) more than twice as powerful. Obviously the Moto E isn't a gaming powerhouse, and will be outperformed in other aspects, but this demonstrates the benefit of sticking close to stock.

My main phone is a OnePlus One, and I love it, but the bottom pointing speakers (seriously, stereo speakers, but on the bottom...what's the point?) annoy me. I briefly had a Note 3, which also had the speaker on the bottom. I'd rather have a rear-facing speaker, which, while not sounding as good, at least sounds "neutral". My next phone, whatever it is, will have dual front-facing stereo speakers. I've been badly wanting a Nexus 6, and the price is finally right, but the screen is apparently rather dim; I need to visit a Verizon store and handle one in person. The Moto X Pure is definitely tempting, but the Adreno 418 isn't as strong as the 420 on the Nexus 6 (benchmarks have proved this), and gaming performance is important to me. And of course, the new Nexus 6P certainly looks interesting. The 5X...not so much. Maybe if it had 3gb DDR4 RAM and didn't top out at 32gb storage.

I just wish Saygus would get off their asses. If/when they finally get the V2 out, the SD801 will be horribly outdated. Still competent, and still filled with features, but nobody's going to want to spend $550 on tech that old.
 
My phone use pretty much mirrors yours to date and have been a Verizon customer for 20 years. I resisted going to a smart phone at all and it was Motorola exclusively as I didn't see the value of "internet" access from a phone at that time. To that point in time, I had never taken a picture with a cell phone. Always have a camera with me working. I'm still using the Samsung S3 which I got when it came out years back. It always works and I have no complaints. I have noticed some degradation of the battery life in the last year.

My suggestion is that you drop the insurance on your phone (if you carry it) and make no changes until it breaks. There will be something "new" next year and this year's models will be less expensive.

My wife has the Iphone 6 which she got this year. She likes it. I personally would never buy an Apple product for myself. She likes the feature where you use the camera and talk "for free" to other Iphone users (namely her daughter).
 
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I looked at the LG G4 and it is nice, but it is bigger than I really want. I'm still getting use to the fact that almost everything is bigger than my Droid Mini,
but I'm trying to stay as small as possible...

I think I have it narrowed down to the Pure or the X Gen 2. I checked out the custom build site for the first time, and I really like all the options available.
 
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