Looking for pictures and experiences on the Urban Pal and Best Pal

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Zanuha

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Hi everyone, it's been a long while.

I've got a little conundrum here, you see, every summer holiday when I have almost three months off to pretty much sit around on the computer and work on and ride my motorcycles, I get a craving. A craving for a cheap, crap, ridiculous knife that I can carry around home for sh*ts and giggles. So I've decided I want a cheap push dagger for neck carry, and I found the Cold Steel Urban and Best Pal at a certain knife store. I'll be honest, I still get a tiny bit childish with knives, and I kind of want the Best Pal just because it's bigger and bigger is cool. However, I've moved on my own now and I need to -gasp- buy groceries and stuff. Now, my point...
If anyone here has both an Urban Pal and Best Pal, I would most appreciate some pictures of both knives, both in the hand and carried on the neck, just so I can get an idea of their size and decide whether the Best Pal would be too scary for the sheeple around town. I'm guessing my MLP shirt would kind of offset that, but I digress.
The knife will be for utility only, self defense is not an issue, both for legality reasons and because, well, I'd much rather use my tactical pen than slice up another human being, no matter what. It'll be used and abused for random work around the house and at school once that starts again. Which one would you recommend?

PS - No, I'm not calling Cold Steel cheap, crap OR ridiculous, but you get my point. Last summer, my choice was a CRKT Bear Claw, and before that my dual Leukus.
 
Zanuha said:
PS - No, I'm not calling Cold Steel cheap, crap OR ridiculous, but you get my point. Last summer, my choice was a CRKT Bear Claw, and before that my dual Leukus.
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Any pics of those Leukus to throw down?

Big fan of them here..... :thumbup:
 
As much as Cold Steel tries to claim push daggers make great utility knives.... It's just not true. Not for theirs, anyways. Push daggers are called daggers for a reason - much like a Karambit, they're purpose designed for causing damage in a fight. They can do other things, but they're generally not very good at it.

I'd steer away from them if you want a utility blade. Grab a Tuff or Tuff Lite instead.
 
A push dagger is probably okay at home.

On the street, they are always considered illegal weapons.

Taking one to school is also a bad plan.
 
Hey, my collection is sorely lacking in tiny blades ever since I lost my SOG Blink, and I'm really looking for a unique neck knife. I'm just wondering if the Best Pal will be too scary for neck carry around town, that's why I'm asking for pictures of it in the fist and on the neck.
Also, Finnish law says nothing specific about push blades. I study logistics and in between the truck and car driving lessons and theory, we sometimes do maintenance on trucks, therefore we're allowed to carry knives and multitools at school. Oddly enough I'm the only one on the mechanical sector who carries either.
Here's a picture of the leukus.
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Grease said:
Push daggers are called daggers for a reason - much like a Karambit, they're purpose designed for causing damage in a fight.
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Karambits originally were utility knives.
Martial artists devised more "weapony" uses for them.

Much like how nunchaku were originally for flailing rice or something. Later they became big in ninja movies (although not as good for whacking someone as a single stick...go figure).

I find the curved blade on kerambits good for opening blister packs; I used mine to open a blister pack for a Swiss Army Knife for one of the groomsmen at my brother's wedding...he had been tearing at the pack with his teeth (I'm not even joking...he was gnawing away to no effect).
 
Raymond1000 said:
On the street, they are always considered illegal weapons.
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Wow, lots of misinformation in this thread. They are NOT always considered illegal weapons, it completely depends on your state's laws. In my state, the Best Pal would be illegal, but it is perfectly legal to carry a single edged version like the Urban Pal.

And Grease, no, karambits are NOT "purpose designed as a weapon". They were actually purpose designed as UTILITY KNIVES, and were later ADOPTED as weapons by martial artists, much like the bolos, parangs, and other machetes taught in the various Southeast Asian martial arts.
 
Zanuha said:
Hey, my collection is sorely lacking in tiny blades ever since I lost my SOG Blink, and I'm really looking for a unique neck knife. I'm just wondering if the Best Pal will be too scary for neck carry around town, that's why I'm asking for pictures of it in the fist and on the neck.
Also, Finnish law says nothing specific about push blades. I study logistics and in between the truck and car driving lessons and theory, we sometimes do maintenance on trucks, therefore we're allowed to carry knives and multitools at school. Oddly enough I'm the only one on the mechanical sector who carries either.
Here's a picture of the leukus.
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Zanhua

I was talking about American law.

I didn’t spot that you were from Finland. I have no idea what your knife culture is like. You do make some fine blades.

I’ve got to give Finland credit. I don’t know another country whose national epic was collected and assembled by a philologist. Even better, it features a magical smith as a major player. :thumbup:
 
Raymond1000 said:
Zanhua

I was talking about American law.
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And you were still wrong. Push Daggers aren't automatically illegal under American law either, it COMPLETELY depends on your state's laws. In Texas, as I said, it is perfectly legal to carry a single edged push dagger like the Urban Pal, though double edged versions like the Best Pal are still illegal. Other states may have different laws, some may allow carry of any push dagger, some may forbid all of them, but again, there is NO nationwide American law forbidding the carrying of a push dagger.
 
DShiflet said:
And you were still wrong. Push Daggers aren't automatically illegal under American law either, it COMPLETELY depends on your state's laws. In Texas, as I said, it is perfectly legal to carry a single edged push dagger like the Urban Pal, though double edged versions like the Best Pal are still illegal. Other states may have different laws, some may allow carry of any push dagger, some may forbid all of them, but again, there is NO nationwide American law forbidding the carrying of a push dagger.
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Fair enough.

That's still the way to bet. I wouldn't carry a push dagger without carefully checking local codes.
 
Punch daggers are almost universally illegal to carry outside of the home in every place I've lived in the US. Many times there are specific local ordinances against them. Its similar with weapons such as the "slung-shot" and other seriously nasty street weapons.
 
xGraffx said:
Many times there are specific local ordinances against them.
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Not here there isn't(San Antonio is pretty restrictive in regards to knife laws, but the rest of Texas isn't too bad). And not in several other states either.
 
DShiflet said:
Not here there isn't(San Antonio is pretty restrictive in regards to knife laws, but the rest of Texas isn't too bad). And not in several other states either.
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Go Spurs!

And to the OP, I bet if you start a thread in the Cold Steel subforum you could get the moderator over there to post some pics of both blades side by side. Just a thought. Good luck!
 
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Oh, thanks! I've really forgotten how this forum works, it's been two years. Not that much money for knives now that I have a motorcycle and my own home to worry about.
 
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