looking for quality binoculars?

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I'm in the market for a decent set of binoculars to take to the sandbox with me.


I probably spend between 200-300, but of course, less would be preferred. wouild that ne enough for quality optics?




ideally, these would be reasonably compact and resilient to shock, dust, etc.

any suggestions?
 
What power? How long are you going to be using them for and for what purpose? Glassing for game for hours at a time will require a vastly different bino than just occasionally checking out the wildlife, or getting a closer view at a concert. Steiner has some small compact binos in that price range (8x24, 10x24, etc), but they would not be good for long term use. Also, look at leupold, and the higher end bushnells are good as well. My first binos were a set of bruntons, IIRC 150 or so and they were very good (comparatively speaking).
 
I'm in the market for a decent set of binoculars to take to the sandbox with me.
I probably spend between 200-300, but of course, less would be preferred. wouild that ne enough for quality optics?
ideally, these would be reasonably compact and resilient to shock, dust, etc.


Probably it's best to gain more knowledge of binoculars -
as the difference between an average pair and a good pair can be quite significant.

First there is power eg: 8x -
this is pretty easy to understand the higher the number the higher magnifying power -
BUT the problem is that they become harder to hold and the field of view narrower -
10x is normally the max, but most experienced users opt for 8x.

Another thing about power is that the higher the power the dimmer the view with the same sized objective (lens).

exit pupil = Objective lens diameter/magnifying power

relative brightness = (exit pupil)squared

so an 8x binocular is actually (10/8)squared = 1.56x (or 56%) brighter than a 10x.

So if compact is a requirement then that normally means the object lens diameter is probably going to be in the range 20-25mm so one has to keep the exit pupil larger by using a lower magnification.

Anyway that's the bare basics and these figures don't tell anywhere near the whole story -
probably it's best to start with

ConsumerSearch on Binoculars

where thay claim to be reviewing the reviews - that is survey all the reviews rank them and come to some concensus.

Kind of the logical way to do research if we had the resources.

Their pick for compact binoculars was -

Pentax Papilio 6.5x21

but they are NOT waterproof.....

The budget choice was -

Nikon Action 7x35

these are considered mid-sized - but I think they're BIG (and heavy) when compared to compacts...... they do NOT claim any water-resistance - but they have an "armored" body.

Best value mid-sized was -

Nikon Action EX Extreme ATB 7x35

as the name suggests it is waterproof etc.......


Personally I like the site that used to be called Better View Desired
now Simpson Optics - there are criticisms, but I like the way the guy writes and the (old) section on compact binoculars was very educational....

I am a fan of compact binoculars (with all their DISadvantages)
and personally like Nikon binoculars (I own the Nikon 8x23 Venturer II that Stephen Ingraham wrote about on that Compact Binoculars page, and bought them under very similar circumstances)

Of the current binos I like

Nikon Travelite V 8x25

but again these are NOT waterproof.

This is what they say on that Compact Binoculars page:

"Inexpensive Porro Prism Compacts:
Inexpensive ($75-$125) porro prism compacts, on the other hand, provide some of the best values in today's optical market. Because they are small, and require less material to make, they can be quite inexpensive while still employing high quality materials and workmanship. Nikon Travelites, for example, feature a smooth plastic exterior with finger grips sculpted in. If the sculpting fits your hands (it does mine) they are very secure and comfortable to hold. The Travelites, despite their 25mm objectives, have excellent resolution, thanks to the use of advanced aspheric optics. It is common to find inexpensive porro prism compacts with BAK-4 prisms (the best), at least partial (and sometimes full) multicoatings, aspheric optics, and sturdy light-weight housings with sometimes exceptionally close focusing (for example the Pentax Papilio series that focus as close as 26 inches!) - all in a binocular often selling for less than $100. The result is a truly bird-worth view - a view that can only be improved upon by investing in one of a handful of exceptionally well designed $250 porro prism glasses or $1000 roof prisms."

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I assume you're going to moving around alot with these "over there". Therefore, a roof prism model would be better (they look like cylinders as opposed to a "regular" poro prism model). Next important would be weight (it's amazing how quickly 1.5 lb binoculars become annoying). again, nod goes to the roof prisms. Now the question is power. 6x or 7x are better for quick scans. Anything over 9x becomes useless without a tripod. And the greater the power, the larger the objective lens you'll want to gather light.

Someone mentioned Optics Planet - great place to buy. So, with all of my assumptions, I'd recommend the Nikon Monarch ATB 8x36 or 8x42 or Leupold Wind River Katmai 6x32 or 8x32. Steiners are awesome, but not as cost effective.
 
Check out this great binoculars review at the Cornell Ornithology Lab, this was one of the resources I based my binoculars purchase on ( I went with the Leica's).

Everyone seems to love Nikon here but I have had bad luck with my Nikon compacts and would never recommend them to anyone. In the less than $300 range I would go with Bushnell, I've been quite happy with the two pairs of Bushnell binoculars and the Bushnell spotting scope that I have owned. I've heard lots of good things about Steiner as well.

I purchased my last pair at www.binoculars.com and was very impressed with the price, service, and quick shipping.

In my opinion it is better to spend a bit more up front and get the best: Zeiss, Swarovski, or Leica.
 
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