Looking for soft firebrick

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Hi,
My name is Eugene and I want to learn to make knives.....
I red “50$ knife shop” book and I decided to start from building “one brick forge”.
However I can’t found any soft firebrick supplier in my area.
I live in Alpharetta GA (north Atlanta area).
I’ll be very appreciated if somebody can point me where I can fond this firebrick in my area. Or if somebody have it for sale, I’ll be happy to pay for this firebrick + shipping.
Thanks,
Eugene.
 
I think you are looking for refractory brick. Try a ceramic supply store or someone that carries kilns.
Take Care
TJ
 
Yes, it is refactory that you want. Do as advised above and also look in the phone book under 'refactory'. If you have no luck try a plant or any buisiness that uses high temp furnaces. These furnaces need up keep and someone has to supplie refactory material for them.

If all else fails email me and I will give you a place that will mail you one. They are not heavy relative to building bricks.

Roger
 
Hi Eugene,

I carry refractory supplies for sale on my web site:

http://StraightRazor.net

While I don't have soft fire brick listed on there as of yet, I do carry it, just drop me an email and we can get you however many you need. If you go to the above website and look under the "forge supplies" section, you'll see some of the other things I carry as well. In addition to what is there, I also have in 6# density Kaowool, ITC-213, castable refractory, and soft firebrick. Hope this helps! :)

-Darren
 
Originally posted by blackboogers
Or you can try these places. This sells 6# Kaowool at $1.09 sq. ft. www.sandsinsulation.com and here is ITC-100 at $25.00 a pint. http://www.clayartcenter.com/kilnaccess_ITC.htm you can possibly get your firebrick here too.
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Just a couple notes on these places to keep in mind...I've checked out the competition in the past. :)

sandsinsulation.com doesn't sell Kaowool, they sell a generic ceramic fiber blanket. Their 6# density stuff sells for $1.09 sqft if you buy 50 sqft. of it. If you buy less, it's something like $2.50 - $3.00 a sqft.

My 6# and 8# density sells for $3.00 and $4.20 per square foot respectively. At that price difference it really doesn't make sense to get the 6# stuff, but I carry it just in case. Also, I will cut it to the exact length you order.

Clayartcenter sells pints of ITC-100 for more like $26, before you factor in the $3.50 handling charge, which brings it up to $29.50 a pint. Also, when you calculate shipping on their website, it calculates everything at 1# of shipping weight and that is what you will initially have charged to your credit card. Once they ship it, they determine the exact weight and charge that extra to you then. I've ordered from them in the past, before I started to carry refractory materials myself, and got surprised by that.

I don't want to come across as tooting my own horn, it's just that sometimes posts like that can be a bit misleading, and unless you read clayartcenters policy page, you might not know about the handling charge and the shipping calculation. The reason I started carrying refractory materials is that I got frustrated with the fact that you couldn't buy this stuff in smaller quantities easily. You don't need 50# of Satanite or 50 sqft of Kaowool to build a forge. Also, half a pint of ITC-100 is more than enough to coat a larger forge over top of Satanite and have a little left over for patching. So anyway, I'm just offering another choice of where to get your refractory supplies at competitive pricing and no hidden handling fees. So far, it's been working out really well, business has been good.

:)

-Darren
 
Find a local pottery/ceramic store and hit them up. They might even have broken brick parts you can have cheap. Some Kiln cement, those, and you're on your way. :)
 
If you are cheap like I am you may try making your own...when I built my forge I made bricks of all shapes and size's from the left over refractory "cement", then coated them with that slurry stuff (IC110 or something). Work great, let me know if you need the ingredients...
 
Come over to the Trackrock Hammer-in in Blairsville Ga next w/e. I'll be bringing some fire brick. We hope to also have a vendor who make great burners for forges. If he doesnt show, you can see some homemade forges with homemade burners in action.You will also learn forging Blades, tomahawks and leatherwork from the Master (Sandy Morrisey. Read the Trackrock thread.

Mark
 
Originally posted by indian george
Darren: What is the difference between the ITC100 HT and the ITC-213??
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IG, the ITC-213 has a binding agent that allows it to stick to metal parts. You can coat your burner nozzles with it to make them last longer, or your elements in your HTing furnace. Larry Harley, for instance, uses ITC-213 to coat the inside of the forge body itself before applying kaowool, satanite and ITC-100 as an extra layer of refractory.


-Darren
 
Darren,

It was great to meet you at the 1st Moran Hammer-In. (Guys he has great prices!!!)

If you could make it to Trackrock with some ITC 100....:eek: :D

Email me when you get a chance. I have the sharpening info.

Pam
 
Hi Pam!,

Thanks for reminding me about that info! I got back home, got busy and completely forgot. Thanks! :) Also, it was great to meet you as well. That was a wonderful hammer-in wasn't it!

I wish I could make it to Track-rock, I've been wanting to get there to meet all those guys (and girls!) but there's been a conflict each time so far with my schedule...this time I'll be at the hammer-in at Bowies in Knoxville. Hopefully I can make it in the Spring. If you know anyone or are passing through Knoxville on your way down there drop me a line and I can get you hooked up with some ITC-100. I only live about 4 blocks off of the interstate going through Knoxville.

Have a great time at Track-rock, it sounds like it's going to be a blast. Tell everyone I said "hello!" :)

-Darren
 
Bruz
That would be great, please let me know how you made them. I wonder if it is possible to make one big brick and use two torches to heat it for larger blades??
Just a thought
Dan
 
Bruz That would be great, please let me know how you made them. I wonder if it is possible to make one big brick and use two torches to heat it for larger blades??

DantheMan, I used the same mix as I did for the refractory for my forge...I got a 50 gallon drum, screwed a piece of plywood about 2/3rds of the way down, stuck my wifes trash can from under her desk in as the form for the oven (if she asks any of you where her trash can is make sure you say you do not know!), screwed and wired chicken wire all over, and poured the refractory in. The walls of the forge are 8"-12" thick! So I do not see any reason you could not just make big bricks and make a forge from them...especially if you wrap some wool in there too.

Anyway, the refractory is not scientific, basically just left overs but it seems to work great. Mixed 2 bags of Portland cement, 2 bags sand, 1 bag potters clay, and 4 bags vermiculite. Mixed it all together (in an old pick-up bed liner) and added just enough water to make it stick together under pressure (a dry mix).

When I had packed as much as possible into the forge I had enough left over for the bricks...I got a sheet of plastic and laid it on the driveway, then set regular red bricks on the plastic leaving varible spaces in between the bricks for the forms. Once the bricks dried I coated them with ITC-100. They are very light and work great in the forge.
 
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