Looking for video on simple way to freehand sharpening

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I have watched so many YouTube videos on freehand Sharpening I have lost track of the sheer volume. Can anyone recommend on a very simplistic way to sharpen? Also, do newer DMT stones need to be broken in? My Dad used to set the angle then keep going in a circular pattern without ever lifting the blade til it was time to go to the next side.
I tried Sharpmaker with the Diamond rids but it was a PIA time wise that I gave up on it.
Thanks in advance.
 
Wedgek Angle Guides. A set of 10* thru 20* plastic wedges you can put on your stone to check the angle you're holding the blade. Simple and cheap ( $12 delivered ).
 
I have watched so many YouTube videos on freehand Sharpening I have lost track of the sheer volume. Can anyone recommend on a very simplistic way to sharpen? Also, do newer DMT stones need to be broken in? My Dad used to set the angle then keep going in a circular pattern without ever lifting the blade til it was time to go to the next side.
I tried Sharpmaker with the Diamond rids but it was a PIA time wise that I gave up on it.
Thanks in advance.

I think there's some merit in that technique, for setting bevels at least.^

I still don't know if there's really a 'simple' way to learn it as a whole, to the extent it becomes repeatable and intuitive and produces good results consistently. So many videos make it look easy, and the basics of the motion and technique are pretty simple to understand, visually. But, the more I learn about sharpening, the more I realize how dependent it is on the 'feel' of the process via the hands and fingertips, to get repeatable, good results. And developing that feel, for me at least, took a while with lots and lots of repetition.

I might suggest starting with a simple blade & edge profile that's relatively easy to control and handle on a bench stone, like a kitchen santoku or medium-sized chef's/cook's knife (6" - 8" blade). It's easy to control a blade of that size with the 2-handed technique that seems most universal to sharpening in general. Use that circular scrubbing technique like your Dad used, and just focus on creating a flat bevel on a section of the edge at a time (heel, belly, tip). Watch how your hold on the knife affects the uniformity of the bevel, how the held angle affects the width & flatness of the bevel, and how the pressure you apply affects burring at the edge (more burring = too heavy with pressure).

Also use your 'off' hand to apply just a little fingertip pressure immediately behind the portion of edge being worked, for control. When I do this, I let part of my fingertip pad (index and/or middle finger) just 'graze' the surface of the stone immediately in front of the edge, and that helps me feel if the apex is lifting away from flush contact. For obvious reasons, one needs to be careful doing it this way, as it's possible to cut or pinch a fingertip under the edge if the apex does lift a little bit (that's a strong motivator to pay attention ;)). Watch how that fingertip pressure affects your ability to keep the bevel flush to the stone, and how that pressure affects the width of the bevel. Heavier pressure under your fingertips will create wider/flatter spots within that section of the bevel, and it's an obvious illustration of why it's important to regulate pressure consistently, when you see wider spots developing in the section you're working. Overall, it might leave the bevel shoulders looking kind of 'wavy' along their full length, when the whole edge is done. I point out all these things, because I've made these 'boo-boos' too many times, and I still do. Live & learn...

As for videos:
I still watch Jason B's videos periodically, as I've always felt his technique looks the most intuitive and fluid, with great muscle memory developed over years and years, and thousands and thousands of knives sharpened. That's what I'm shooting for, ideally, one day... :thumbsup:

BTW, as for breaking in DMT's hones, they always get a little more consistent with some break-in time. But I seem to recall they even start out pretty impressively, straight out of the box, as compared to other brands I've tried.
 
Thanks very much for the helpful answers. I am going to have a go at using my Diamond stone again and see how things go. If I had to I could always sell my DMT and go back to Sharpmaker. To be honest I have used my newest stone (Fine and Extra Fine) only once so I will try for awhwile.
 
Can anyone recommend on a very simplistic way to sharpen?
I tried Sharpmaker with the Diamond rids but it was a PIA time wise that I gave up on it.
No . . . seriously just get this
Do this.
Smile and enjoy the results.

THEN if you still insist on free hand sharpening to touch up at least THE FREEKIN' angles will be the same on each side.
Sharpening a factory edge pretty much you will be needing to sharpen at two similar but not the same angles and that could be part of your frustration. That and needing to hold the blade at the correct angle within a quarter of a degree (too shallow and you won't be sharpening but just rubbing the blade on the stone).
 
I think there's some merit in that technique, for setting bevels at least.^

I still don't know if there's really a 'simple' way to learn it as a whole, to the extent it becomes repeatable and intuitive and produces good results consistently. So many videos make it look easy, and the basics of the motion and technique are pretty simple to understand, visually. But, the more I learn about sharpening, the more I realize how dependent it is on the 'feel' of the process via the hands and fingertips, to get repeatable, good results. And developing that feel, for me at least, took a while with lots and lots of repetition.

I might suggest starting with a simple blade & edge profile that's relatively easy to control and handle on a bench stone, like a kitchen santoku or medium-sized chef's/cook's knife (6" - 8" blade). It's easy to control a blade of that size with the 2-handed technique that seems most universal to sharpening in general. Use that circular scrubbing technique like your Dad used, and just focus on creating a flat bevel on a section of the edge at a time (heel, belly, tip). Watch how your hold on the knife affects the uniformity of the bevel, how the held angle affects the width & flatness of the bevel, and how the pressure you apply affects burring at the edge (more burring = too heavy with pressure).

Also use your 'off' hand to apply just a little fingertip pressure immediately behind the portion of edge being worked, for control. When I do this, I let part of my fingertip pad (index and/or middle finger) just 'graze' the surface of the stone immediately in front of the edge, and that helps me feel if the apex is lifting away from flush contact. For obvious reasons, one needs to be careful doing it this way, as it's possible to cut or pinch a fingertip under the edge if the apex does lift a little bit (that's a strong motivator to pay attention ;)). Watch how that fingertip pressure affects your ability to keep the bevel flush to the stone, and how that pressure affects the width of the bevel. Heavier pressure under your fingertips will create wider/flatter spots within that section of the bevel, and it's an obvious illustration of why it's important to regulate pressure consistently, when you see wider spots developing in the section you're working. Overall, it might leave the bevel shoulders looking kind of 'wavy' along their full length, when the whole edge is done. I point out all these things, because I've made these 'boo-boos' too many times, and I still do. Live & learn...

As for videos:
I still watch Jason B's videos periodically, as I've always felt his technique looks the most intuitive and fluid, with great muscle memory developed over years and years, and thousands and thousands of knives sharpened. That's what I'm shooting for, ideally, one day... :thumbsup:

BTW, as for breaking in DMT's hones, they always get a little more consistent with some break-in time. But I seem to recall they even start out pretty impressively, straight out of the box, as compared to other brands I've tried.
What is Jason B's last name? Trying to find his vids on you tube.
 
Alot of good responses ... I can attest to Jason B's knowledge and he is helpful ... I got some good recommendations when I began updating my stones.

I agree learning on a kitchen knife with a lower angle is easier to build muscle memory and is easier to maintain your angle by sight ... the plastic guides are good for checking .. and of course the sharpie marking your edge to be sure you are hitting the apex is probably the best quick feedback to you to know if you are hitting your angle .

I recently bought some DMT Diafolds which I use holding the knife moving the stone ... which is how I learned as a youth to sharpen and to me it is easier ... but I would learn to use both that and a stone moving your blade over it ... it just takes practice and patience.
 
I have watched so many YouTube videos on freehand Sharpening I have lost track of the sheer volume. Can anyone recommend on a very simplistic way to sharpen? Also, do newer DMT stones need to be broken in? My Dad used to set the angle then keep going in a circular pattern without ever lifting the blade til it was time to go to the next side.
Hi,
How simplistic? What is it that you're trying to avoid ? Learn?
 
I’d also recommend Martin (@HeavyHanded) tutorial on his site: www.washboardsharpening.com. The tips (videos and manuals) are mostly applicable also for free hand technique.

One of most recent video he shared:
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I learnt from Jason & Martin both, and many others here (David/OWE, Omar, Brian, Liong/bluntcut and many others), but for video, the two are best!
 
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Hi,
How simplistic? What is it that you're trying to avoid ? Learn?
I just want to make my knives sharper. Some are fairly dull (Vintage with wear) and some I just want sharper but I don't want to scratch any of them. I want it to be super simple like how my Dad did it which was to keep the blade at a fairly constant angle and move it in large circles multiple times and then turn it over and do the other side. It only took him a few minutes.
 
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I’d also recommend Martin (@HeavyHanded) tutorial on his site: www.washboardsharpening.com. The tips (videos and manuals) are mostly applicable also for free hand technique.

One of most recent video he shared:
.
I learnt from Jason & Martin both, and many others here (David/OWE, Omar, Brian, Liong/bluntcut and many others), but for video, the two are best!

Thank you. I will will watch these
 
I speak mostly for me when I say this but...

We here in MT&E really make sharpening far more complicated than it really is. Part of this is that some of us are interested in precision. Another part is cosmetics. We'd like for our blades to look really nice and symmetrical when we are done. Plus we are all sharpening nuts or else we wouldn't be here. So we make it complicated.

But really, if all you want is a sharp blade, the basics are kinda "macro" and easy to execute. When I first saw Cliff Stamp do his simplified sharpening routine I was trying to find what was wrong with it. Because it's too easy. Because it flies in the face of all of my "study" of sharpening. For making things sharp, I can't really fault his method at all. In fact it's taught me some things.

Here's a video by him illustrating this method:


If you can learn to use the reflected light technique that he talks about, it can be a powerful part of your sharpening process.

Brian.
 
I speak mostly for me when I say this but...

We here in MT&E really make sharpening far more complicated than it really is. Part of this is that some of us are interested in precision. Another part is cosmetics. We'd like for our blades to look really nice and symmetrical when we are done. Plus we are all sharpening nuts or else we wouldn't be here. So we make it complicated.

But really, if all you want is a sharp blade, the basics are kinda "macro" and easy to execute. When I first saw Cliff Stamp do his simplified sharpening routine I was trying to find what was wrong with it. Because it's too easy. Because it flies in the face of all of my "study" of sharpening. For making things sharp, I can't really fault his method at all. In fact it's taught me some things.

Here's a video by him illustrating this method:


If you can learn to use the reflected light technique that he talks about, it can be a powerful part of your sharpening process.

Brian.
Wow! I love this video.
 
I have a hard arkansas stone and a black arkansas stone. I put some honing oil on the hard one, lay my knife down on it and lift until the very tip of the V touches the stone and make a slicing motion. I go until I can feel the wire, I work the other side until it's gone. Then, I repeat on the black stone until I'm satisfied
 
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