Looks like another winner from CRKT

ThinkOfTheChildren

ThinkOfTheChildren

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I was just surfing around the web-stores and saw this:

<img src="http://www.crkt.com/CARCAJOU.JPG">

It also comes in a gut-hook model:

<img src="http://www.crkt.com/COBUK.JPG">

These are two must-have knives for me. Anyone handled one in person yet?

Also, what would be the legality of carrying the gut-hook model? Would it be considered a double-edged knife?
 
I have not seen or handled one, nor do I know about the legality in your area, of a gut-hook.

I do however, think this is one ugly sucker of a knife (sorry). What's up with the pop-can opener on the end????
 
Those are some nice Russ Kommer designs. I haven't handled them yet, but the hole in the back of the handle is a finger ring so you can’t drop it.
 
Shane45-1911, I saw a picture of a guy skinning game. The loop on the end of the handle is for your pinkie; you can keep the knife within reach while both hands are free.
 
I have the Carcajou and have used it a few times. Very nice piece. The blade tip tapers to almost a point which makes it great for precise cutting tasks. The knife, overall, is very nicely made per CRKT standards. However, I am not too wild on the Zytel sheaths :barf: For those who think Kydex is noisy, Zytel sheaths are deafening when you insert the knife back into the sheath :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by el cid
...the hole in the back of the handle is a finger ring so you can’t drop it.
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Jeez, if I need to have a contraption like that on the end of the handle to keep from dropping my knife, I may as well put a big wad of hockey-stick tape on the end instead !!!!
 
Yea, I don't expect that the sheaths will be too great, but for $30 I can deal with that. For a little extra, I can just get Normark to whip up a sheath for me.

I love the finger hole. My bear claw is a great knife and it looks like this one will be as well.

I know it's made for skinning game but with a sub 3" blade and an extremely secure grip, it would make a great last ditch defensive knife in many areas. The finger hole is set up just like a kerambit. This knife would rock in reverse grip.
 
I really like the looks of the "gut-hook model", but I was thinking...Just a little work with a saw and a couple of files on the "hook" would make it into a very nice little clip-point knife.:).
 
MelancholyMutt,

Define "tactical" and "combat."

Would I want to jump out of a plane with this thing on my finger? No. A snag = loss of finger.

But for a street defense situation, how do you figure?
Do you hear of people losing four of their fingers using brass knuckles to beat the snot out of someone? I've punched a brick wall with knucks on with no damage to any part of my hand.

I've never heard of a soldier in WWI or WWII losing their fingers using their "trench" knives.

While there are certainly situations where I wouldn't want an object this securely attached to my hand, I don't think I'll be in any of them in my everyday life.
 
20 pounds of leverage pressure against 4 fingers... and 20 pounds of the same pressure against just one... even if it's the index or middle finger, not even mentioning the pinky...

How do I know?
Remember the Terminator knife with the ring for the index finger... you're talking to someone who dislocated a finger joint on that thing. The doctor said I was lucky, that I could have lost the entire finger.
 
Originally posted by MelancholyMutt
is a good way to lose a finger in a tactical or combat situation.
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Someone probably ought to tell Fred Perrin. And all those fellows who make Kerambits.
 
I had a chance to handle the prototype about 3 years ago. I was surprised it took so long to go into production. It feels real good in hand though. CRKT and Russ Komer did a lot of work on those models. If you like them wait until you see the new variations on the M-16s about to debut at the Blade Show. I am sworn to secrecy but I can tell you they look real nice.
 
hmm...

i really don't look at these as tactical knives. the smaller one looks like another 'bird and trout' knife, the other obviously a skinner.

the pinkie ring is excellent when your dealing with slimey bodily fluids (usually in cold weather for deer).

but i agree, i wouldn't go wrestling with someone with my pinkie in the hole.

but, if you wanted to say...take a patch of somebody to make a commerative wallet out of later..these would be just the tools. ;)

Metis
 
Originally posted by JamesA


Someone probably ought to tell Fred Perrin. And all those fellows who make Kerambits.
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I'm not criticizing the knives at all. I'm sure they make great skinning knives (to which I don't really know cause I don't skin anything).

I'm simply saying that if one were to find themselves in a tactical situation, to try not to use the little finger hole.
 
I think James' point is that Fred Perrin specializes in tactical knives with finger holes. Check out the Emerson La Griffe or the upcoming Spyderco SPOT, both Perrin designs. Then there are the age old Kerambits, of varying lengths and sizes. See Laci Szabo's page for an example of one. To the best of my knowledge, kerambits were designed as weapons and have a history of being used as such. Maybe they were originally skinners but they've fared quite well over a long period of time as no-nonsense weapons.
 
I was once a repo man and in the execution of my job, I entered a garage where a German Shepard decided to use my arm for a chewtoy. Seeing as I had a gun I wasn't supposed to have, and a knife that only bordered on being illegal, I chose to use the knife. The knife was the Terminator with the finger ring. I stuck the poor beast while he chomped down on my arm (thank God for thick padding in Carhart Jackets), which luckily terminated the attack. In leaving, the dog twisted his body which twisted the knife and caused me to lose grip. This twisting motion also twisted my finger and dislocated it at a joint. This would not have happened if... 1) there were no finger-hole, or 2) I had opted NOT to use the fingerhole. The damage might have been minimalized or prevented alltogether if I had a Brass Knuckle trench knife type setup.

It's ONE story, and the only story I know (it may be the only story out there), and it's enough for me to not like the fingerhole knife in most situations. I'm perfectly happy to sit on the sidelines and say in my most annoying voice- "I told you so" if it happens again, although I would be happier if it never happens to anyone else... which is why I posted about it in the first place.
 
Thank you for the story. I appreciate your concern with ever using a finger hole knife again. Sorry that had to happen to you.

I don't mean to be busting your balls or anything, I had just never heard a story like yours before.

I'll still carry my Bear Claw as a defensive backup when I feel like it and I still plan on getting one of the above CRKT knives and the Spyderco SPOT. Hopefully the same doesn't happen to me.

If I might ask, what was the size of the "Terminator" knife? Maybe it's an issue of choosing the right number of finger holes depending on the size of the knife I.E. a small knife like La Griffe can handle one hole while a full size "combat" blade needs the full trench brass knuckle setup.
 
No harm, No foul...

I must admit that my one-liner made me sound like a moron with an axe to grind and no brain cells to back it up.

The terminator knife, I haven't been able to find it online as I think it went out of production very quickly, is about the same size as a M4 bayonet. It looked much like the OSS v-42 dagger and had a guard where one of the ends looped into a finger hole.
 
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