Los Angeles County- 'plain view'

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bama_lou

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What constitutes plain view? In their own words:

13.62.010 Knives and daggers defined.

As used in this chapter, the terms "knives and daggers" shall include any knife having a blade of three inches or more in length; any spring-blade, switch-blade or snap-blade knife; any knife any blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device; any ice pick or similar sharp stabbing tool; any straight-edge razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle. (Ord. 11915 § 1, 1979.)

13.62.020 Carrying knives and daggers in plain view prohibited.

It is unlawful for any person to carry on his person, in plain view, any knife or dagger. (Ord. 11915 § 2, 1979.)

Does that mean the whole body of a knife that exceeds three inches has to be inside the pocket, with the clip sticking out? Does it mean that carrying fixed blades inside a sheath that rides on your belt count as illegal carry? It seems to me that the term 'plain view' can be (mis)interpreted by a LEO and cause unwanted hassles with the law?
 
This law is intended to make it completely illegal to carry a dagger. California Penal Code Section 12020(a) and(c), make it a felony to carry concealed upon one’s person a “dirk” or “dagger.” Remember, the statute only prohibits possession when “concealed,” not their manufacture, sale, or use. LA county is closing the door to unconcealed carry.
 
I found this municipal code database specifically made for the City of Santa Clarita and it only prohibits Minors from carrying knives in plain view. I'm pretty safe when I carry my Rainbow Leek and Civilian around and I've seen people walking around with CUDA Maxx's and Spyderco Police's. And I think that I am not the *******-looking type who struts around looking for a fight.

Other than that, the PLAIN VIEW part really escapes me.
 
In Los Angeles I've carried folders with a full 3" or so of them protruding from my watch pocket, with my shirt pulled up for all to see. Nobody seemed to notice or care, which isn't surprising considering how self-absorbed most residents are here.
 
Ratchet the wheel one step closer to our fascist future....

If you wish exemption from the carry law, become a Sikh and you will meet the standard for exemption. Sikhs MUST carry a knife. It's a nice religion, too. As far as religions go..
 
Sikhs also are supposed to wear a traditional style of turban. The traditional way of molding that turban is by soaking it in urine. I'll go for the knife, the comb and the beard, but I'm not so sure about the turban.
 
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