I just got my first Umnum yesterday and its awesome, it was born Oct 20, 2011 and it does have the first lbs w/o the logo. One thing about the lbs is it looks much better in real life than in pics, it does match the ti very well though and at least it doesn't have a screw in the middle of it like most other knives. The lbs def doesn't detract from the knife in my eye's:thumbup: I've had zero problem's opening and closing it and it was smoother than my Seb's otb, I din't know it would be this hard to decide which I like more the Umnum or the Sebenza. But maybe after I get some good use with the Umnum I could comment further, so far an outstanding knife a big :thumbup: to CRK