Low Cost Buck Mayo

ScottK

ScottK

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I understand that a low cost version of the Buck Mayo, the 173 with aluminum handles and a 420 stainless blade is coming out soon. What do you know about this knife? When will it ship?

Thanks!
ScottK
 
That seems weird to me, it was the premium materials, IMO, that made the original Buck/Mayo among the best. (I didn't like the the horns/guards on the top and bottom near the blade nor the oval opening hole)

Take away the good materials and it seems to me you have an aluminum handled knife, like any of the other zillion ones already available.

Also I think it would dilute the "mayo" brand so to speak.
 
This should be interesting. When Buck changed the steel in the Buck/Strider, sales fell way off.Lots of complaints here. (i didnt see this as a problem, i like ATS34.)Maybe it simply was the act of changing. I hope this works for them. DaveH, I'm with you, it's just another aluminum handled knife with the same steel as in my $49 Alpha folder.
 
It certainly looks like a nice knife, and the aluminum handles don't bother me too much. For knife handles, I can't say that titanium is 'worlds better' than aluminum. I don't think you can make a good aluminum framelock, though, so biogon may be right about the linerlock. But 420HC? Hopefully there will be a limited run with ATS-34 or BG-42.
 
Originally posted by SteelDriver
It certainly looks like a nice knife, and the aluminum handles don't bother me too much. For knife handles, I can't say that titanium is 'worlds better' than aluminum. I don't think you can make a good aluminum framelock, though, so biogon may be right about the linerlock. But 420HC? Hopefully there will be a limited run with ATS-34 or BG-42.
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I agree, I actually prefer hard anodized aluminium to titanium, just because of the improved wear and cost. ;)

If you look at the lock portion on that photograph, it seems that there's something (a shadow) behind the traction grooves, which is why I suspect it's a linerlock.

Microtech has an aluminium handled framelock, but they use a steel or titanium insert for the steel-bearing surfaces (the new Mini SOCOM Elite M/A Framelock). I think you're right in that aluminium must wear too quickly against a steel tang.

420HC surprisingly isn't as bad a steel as it appears. We have a FB in it (the Nighthawk) and it holds up rather nicely in comparison with 440C and ATS-34. With just uncontrolled experience, it seems to dull on par with 440C, and is better than AUS-6. Of course, I prefer carbon in a fb but now we're really off topic. ;)

-jon
 
Originally posted by guy g
This should be interesting. When Buck changed the steel in the Buck/Strider, sales fell way off.Lots of complaints here. (i didnt see this as a problem, i like ATS34.)Maybe it simply was the act of changing. I hope this works for them. DaveH, I'm with you, it's just another aluminum handled knife with the same steel as in my $49 Alpha folder.
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Actually sales volumes are much lower with higher end steels. The more something costs the less you sell. Also the SB line are all ATS-34 and have always been. Only a limited number (500 or so) were done in BG-42 as an intro. We will continue to make high end SB products, but will also try to make some for every budget.

New Mayo-

The Prototypes I have seen are very nice. Those of you who want the best materials can buy the current model or one of Tom's customs, but for the vast majority of knife buyers the new Mayo will be perfect, as well as be much better than any other knife in that price range.

Thanks,

Josh
 
Many thanks to Scott for starting this thread and for including a good picture of the new Mayo knife.

I agree with Dave that the premium materials set the current Mayo apart. I hope that Buck continues to introduce models that utilize the finest blade and handle materials for those customers who require the very best.

At the same time, it is also important to note that placing a $200-300 price tag on a folder puts it out of many people's price range, and that a lower-cost alternative like the Mayo prototype brings state-of-the-art design to the masses at an affordable cost.

I am looking forward to picking up one of these new knives!

Regards, -Alex
 
Thanks for all fo the responses. Hopefully someone from Buck Knives will jump in and provide us with more information.

Happy New Year!
Scott
 
Josh,thanks for the reply. From what I read here the majority of High end folks wanted the BG42 to continue. They sold like hotcakes. I had one for a short short. Never used it,not a tactical person,but I loved the way it was built. Swapped it for a 192 Mastersieries overrun that is used alot.
I say again that I really hope this works out.
take care
guy
 
Originally posted by ScottK
... Hopefully someone from Buck Knives will jump in and provide us with more information.
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Scott, you may not be aware but Josh (J Rummerfield) is from Buck's Tactical Division. We can rely on him for the most up-to-date info from the factory on these, and other, new releases for 2004.

Thanks Josh !!!
 
This is getting confusing but exciting too with all the new Buck/Mayo collaborations

New high-end Buck/Mayo - large size (3,75")
New mainstream Buck/Mayo - size ? #173
New Mayo Mid-Tech using Buck parts

Hmmmh ?

Klaus
 
Originally posted by tom mayo
true, except when he is in the disinformation mode!!!!!


part of his past spec op mind set! :p :rolleyes: :p
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I can neither confirm or deny such accusations, I have no recollection of said activity. I am just a graduate of the University of Science, Music and Culture.

Happy New Year Tom!

SF

Josh
 
i think it is a linerlock too, i dont' see how they can use aluminum for a framelock unless they developed some new process. I don't see anything wrong with the cheaper material. The majority of consumers can't afford or don't want to spend so much on a folder. This allow more people to enjoy a excellent design.
 
I dont know how it would hold up under forumite use , but Gerber makes at least one knife with a machined aluminum frame/handle lock.
 
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