Lum or EKI?

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Just a quick seeking of opinions, here. I'm looking for a pocket queen. I mean a knife that I don't necessarily use, it's just there as a nice piece to look at when I'm bored. My favorite color is also green- so I though, why not something nice in green. Here's the choice, which would you make:

Spyderco Green Lum Chinese

or

Emerson CQC7A, B, or PSARK with green scales?

Am I missing something?

I know this sounds kind of frivolous, but I have plenty of knife for actually cutting stuff, now I want one that actually looks really cool. Have at it gentlemen! Your answers are most appreciated!
 
You won't be disappointed with the Lum. The VG-10 steel takes an awesome, hair-poppin' edge, the linerlock is rock solid, and its' blade is much bigger than what it looks when closed. Even if you don't intend to cut anything with this Spydie, the Lum Chinese is a knife that can be appreciated just by its' looks.

My green Lum is one of my favorite Spydies. :D ;)
 
look at my avatar, read the 1st line of my sig, and ask no more...

buy the lum chinese... I know of them going for $115 USD... but I can't say anything more here.
 
If you need the knife just to enjoy its look when you are bored – get SPYDERCO Bob Lum Chinese. It is simple, elegant and very pleasant in look and touch. Comfortable to handle and easy to operate also.

But if you want your knife to be real cutter – get SPYDERCO Bob Lum Chinese especially! It has flat ground blade with acute edge made of excellent VG-10 steel. Cuts through everything like through butter.
 
I like the CQC7A myself but for aesthetics I think the Lum would win this battle.
 
These knives are not comparable. The Lum is no where near the same category as the Emersons. One is "gentlemans pocket knife" and the others are "survival tool." They're both good products, but you need to find out what type of pocket candy you want first.
 
brownshoe, I don't have any experience with any Emerson, just as you apparently don't have any experience with the Lum Chinese.

This Spydie is equipped with an extra wide blade shape that has been used by the Chinese for everything from general utility to hunting and tactical applications. The steel is flat ground VG-10(takes an AWESOME edge), dual steel liners with a nested linerlock for extra solidity, and almite coated aluminum handles. This Spyderco blade is not just a "gentleman's pocket knife", but a tough and dependable tool. IMO, to say that the Lum doesn't even compare is a little ignorant.
 
I have Emerson and Lum. Lum quality is great. my Emerson is not as well made as the Lum. Just opening them you will see what I mean, the spyderco knife is not one of my favorites when it comes to folders but I would recommend the Lum over my Emerson anyday. But if you plan on sticking your knife through a car door the Emerson is the way to go. LOL
 
Hmm, I think not exactly. Both are knives and they have pretty similar blade size. I can’t imagine what peaceful cutting tasks I could perform with EKI CQC-7 and couldn’t do with SPYDERCO Lum Chinese. But inversely – yes, indeed, in fact I couldn’t do anything sensible with single-side sharpened Emerson blade. Even clip point not speaking about chisel ground pseudo-tanto blade...
Don’t believe me? No problem, just take a small piece of wood and try to whittle the toothpick.

Well, no one coin has single side. CQC-7 has comfortable handle and the grip is safer and securer than on Chinese one. Textured G-10 scales are also better palm adhering than smooth Almite coated Chinese slabs. So Emerson blade could be preferable on super-heavy cutting tasks or so called tactical applications.

On Chinese side stand – elegant and classy design, bystander friendly appearance, much better execution quality, thin profile, it is also significantly lighter.

And now let’s think what is important for daily carry knife? Chinese advantages overweight for me with no discussion!
 
I have a Lum. I know it well. It does not have dual steel liners, only one, with two aluminum handles. It's screws fall out. Luckily I own lock-tite and Spyderco will send new screws for free. In one week its liner traveled almost all the way across the tang. It's stayed there now for a year.

The Lum is a pocket knife with limited use as a self-defense tool. The Emerson is not.

The Lum is easier to sharpen and will slice like bad golfer. But it's blade shape is too wide for easy use of the point (i.e. splinter remover.) It's blade shape is also t0o wide for many slicing applications (e.g. thick meat) because it drags.

The Lum is slippery. The Emerson is not.

By the end of the post, I think Sergiuz has noted they are similar, but definitely in different classes.
 
Brownshoe,
I have a Lum. I know it well. It does not have dual steel liners, only one, with two aluminum handles.
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Are you sure we are speaking about the same knife? After reading your post I have inspected both my SYDERCO Bob Lum Chinese folders (C-65 in manufacturer catalog) once more and pretty carefully. Both green (#512) and blue (not numbered) ones have dual steel liners. So here could be two explanations only. One – that we are speaking about different knives or another – that you do not have SPYDERCO Lum Chinese.

It's blade shape is also too wide for many slicing applications (e.g. thick meat) because it drags.
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Really? Just curious what kind of meat do you have in your mind? Maybe rubber... Because I use some knives with much wider blades (for ex. SPYDERCO fixed blade Temperance, Fällkniven K1 and some more) in my kitchen pretty extensively exactly for meat slicing and there are no problems with dragging.

Next, despite it is wide the Chinese blade is pretty pointy at the tip. I do not have EKI CQC-7 with clip point blade right now to compare but I bet Chinese is more pointy. Could someone who has both knives check it out and complete, please?
But the Chinese blade without any doubts is way more pointy than so-called chisel-tanto CQC-7 one.

Are you really sure we are speaking about the same items?
 
I'm with Nathan on the BM-940, but staying with your original choices I'm going with the Lum. Great looking knife.
 
Serg,

The Lum has one steel nested liner for the lock, not for handle strength. The aluminum handles are polished on the edges, thus they look like steel (they're not green.) However they are aluminum edges with a green face. Also, feel the knife, it couldn't be that light with dual steel liners.

Many kitchen knives have a slight convex ground that helps in slicing. My personal experience is that some materials, such as thick raw beef, stick to the blade, maybe due to its shinieness or flat grind.

shoe of brown
 
Oh, really! There are one liner but the silver strap on the other slab looks exactly as it would be an opposite one. The illusion is so large that I have carried mine pretty long time thinking it is steel liner. Probably the self-suggestion was stronger than my eyes, I’m sorry!

As to slicing – Fallkniven K1 really has convex edge (not grind) but SPYDERCO Temperance and Moran (newer one) have fully flat grind and conventional sharpening. But the slice through thick meat (mniam :p!) without any problems.
 
if i wanted grren handles would get a :

*EKI SOCFK green G10 w/black tanto blade from www.tacticaledge.com for $139.95, an excellent price for the best emerson made imho, a spec war handle w/a CQC blade that is waved, for less than $150 retail!! cant beat that imho, and i hear EKI is gonna quit making green handles soon.......

*microtech SOCOM or SOCOM elite, both EXCELLENT knives, green aluminum handles, kinda pricey but ya can get them on the for sale asection of the forum occasionally, i got a elite w/a brend pre-pro blade combo edge for $140 froma fellow forumite, in 100% LNIB condition, the std SOCOM's are a little cheaper.

thats what i like, anyway........imho EKI and MT are the top of the line production knives, bar none, very high quality, not cheap though! have had a lum ti tanto and a CQC7B, and while they were ok, nothing to write home to mom about, imho, not like the SOCFK or the SOCOM series. of the 2, the lum has the better grind, imho, and is slimmer, but the CQC is more heavy duty, imho, of the 2 would get the CQC myself, if i had to have 1 of the 2..........

greg
 
I would definitely go with the Lum Chinese unless I had a lot of super heavy-duty cutting to do. By heavy-duty I mean the kind that requires major force and material that is at least borderline abusive on an edge.

The Lum is a far more efficient cutter if grip security under extreme pressure and torque isn't a major issue.

I also think it is a much prettier knife than the Emerson, but that's subjective.
 
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