M16-13Z Arrived : Pics / Questions

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inspira

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Hi people,

I got my CRKT M16-13Z last week, been using it a lot and enjoying it :)
It's my first decent knife, and I'm on a budget so I've been pretty happy with the purchase so far. I'm newbie at knives (although I have read a lot about them) so please be gentle :]


The Carson Flipper really makes this knife great, although - I couldn't say the same for the thumb stud. Most of the time I open the knife with a touch of the Carson Flipper and a flick of the wrist, which works well - I find it nigh impossible to open the knife one-handed with the thumbstud.

First day I spent playing around with the knife, and practising one-hand openings and closings. Closing the knife one handed was interesting, and once - the serration part hit the fingernail on my thumb while it was closing, and I can still see a red dot where its bled underneath.

I was happy with the edge out of the box, not needing a shaving sharp edge. While I was cutting the fishing line off the sinkers i used on my fishing trip, I slipped and the serrations went right into my left thumb - as I took it out I thought I was going to faint, lol.

The only regret I have had getting this knife is not getting the aluminium handled M16 instead. I should have done my homework better. But the Zytel nonetheless feels sturdy.


Now onto the questions :) How are we sharpening this baby? As a newcomer to knives I only have a steel and a carbide benchstone I have been using in the kitchen. I really dont want to muck up my M16, so what would be a good way to sharpen it myself? Benchstone with a guide? Crock sticks? Diamond? ATM, I'm not prepared to pay for a Sharpmaker, since this is my only knife. I noticed that it has a chisel grind - how do I sharpen that?

Also, what do you guys use to oil the pivot, besides the obvious WD-40?

Closed
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Opened
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LAWKS Closeup
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LAWKS Closeup
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Blade Closeup
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Stripped
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Thanks in advance,


-- Vince.
 
Great knife, isn't it?

I got my CRKT M21-02 last week. I love it. One question for you, though. When you open it with the Carson Flipper, does it smoothly open? If I hold the knife in my hand with four fingers, and use my thumb to flick it, it opens to about 8 o clock, holding it straight up. I use the thumb stud to open it the rest of the way. Yours sounds like it's easier to open. I really have to flick it fairly hard. Maybe I need to lubricate it?

I have to use my thumb, because if I don't, my index finger scratches on the LAWKS and it kinda hurts :\


Shame you didn't get the aluminum handle :(
 
Django606 - that's how I open mine :) I have an M16-03K (PE/spearpoint/aluminum handle). Your pivot may be set a bit tight. On mine, it took a bit of fiddling to find the spot where there was no blade play, but smooth. Mine is set just a bit on the tight side, just enough that you need a slight wrist movement to open it. Not quite as hard as you are describing. I used Loc-Tite to ensure it didn't move. If you are looking for an inexpensive way to sharpen those serrations, you may want to check out one of the Lansky dogbone sharpeners - I actually got both. I recently purchased a Buck/Strider 887SBT Police Advocate that has a combo edge, and I'm a PE type, so that was what I ended up. There are several type of those, a rubberized one, which is probably the cheapest or a ceramic one. I found mine at Wal-Mart for about $10.00 CDN (I have both). The ceramic one was in the fishing section, and has a groove for fish hooks - doesn't matter, what you want is the corner of the triangle anyway. Flats can be used for the rest of the blade. There are also a few diamond hones about - DMT comes to mind, but you may drop more than a few bucks on those, and if you are on a budget, they are up there. You probably won't be needing to touch those serrations up that much anyway :D

Hope this helps - gord
 
Ok, thanks. I'm gonna go loosen the blade pivot just a little bit and put some WD-40 on it.

You're lucky, plain edges are kinda hard to find nowadays in the non-EDC M16s.
 
Nice purchase! I have used an M16 as my EDC for about a year now, and I've never been disappointed with its performance.

Regarding your question about opening, I would recommend using your index finger instead of your thumb on the carson flipper. This allows you to get a better grip on the handle. With a little wrist torque and a flick of the flipper with your index finger, the blade should snap into place without much trouble.

For sharpening, I have had great success working freehand with medium and fine ceramic stones.

Enjoy your new knife,

- Mike
 
Hi Django,

I stripped mine as above and put WD-40 on the teflon discs and the blade surfaces and reassembled.
You can adjust the tension screw to suit as well.

the way I use the carson flipper is I hook it between teh first and second joints on my index finger. That gives a better grip on it. and then if its really tight - I do that as well as push up with my thumb on the spine of the blade b/w the pivot and the thumbstud - where its rough.

I have it so that the carson flipper doesn't open the blade straight away. With practise you can flip and flick in one motion. Just the softest of flicks does the trick :)

-- Vince.
 
Just to pipe this in fella's..

WD-40 is 66% Varsol,it is a moisture displacement chemical, a cleaner more so then it ever will be a lubricant.

If you can, get some atleast hoppe's, or even 3 in 1 oil, these are gun and fine machine lubricants.
(Make sure to remove all excess you can with the wd-40, so crap and corruption does not adhere,on a rag or q-tip wil work.)

When using wd-40 as a lube, it will accelerate wear if used by itself, it will remove lube already in place and dry out leaving no protection, and parts start getting harder to move..


Peace

WR
 
Last I knew (which was about 10 months ago, when I got my first good knife (thanks to you guys, of course)), you could get a free sample of militec-1 that contains about a lifetimes supply for your average knife nut (I think it's half the size of the small $6 bottles?). That's what I got, and even after the neck of the little bottle they sent it in got something put on it and it broke and I lost some of it, there's still a ton left (it's in a little eye drops dispenser now. I think the link for the free samples are on their site somewhere, and it's great stuff.
 
Hello all,

I can't imagine how you are flipping with your thumb. I firmly put my thumb in the first hole. I do this now, after once flipping the knife clear across the room! I was using way to much wrist action at first. It is surprising how little momentum you need when flicking your wrist, but it is very necessary for the blade to deploy and lock up. I have made no ajustments on mine. It's a M21-02 but I believe the concept is the same and the dimensions are close.

I also love this knife.

This is how I start when flipping the blade:

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inspira said:
Also, what do you guys use to oil the pivot, besides the obvious WD-40?
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Any thin lube should do. Some use dry stuff like graphite or teflon.
There are decent food grade oils available, recommended if you happen to cut foods with your knife.

Lately I've been using mineral oil from the pharmacy. A drop in to pivots, and a coat for the carbon steel knives. Not toxic and no taste what so ever. It's a tad thick though, and has to be applied to absolutely clean surfaces. Other than that, I've used gun oil (CRC brand, smells really nice) and it works well.

Very nice pictures btw, really enjoyed those!
 
Samgotit, when I try to open it with my index finger like you showed in your pic, my finger just scratches on the LAWKS. It starts to hurt after a few flicks and my skin gets ripped up.
 
Great Pics. Sorry you found out the hard way how good it cuts.

I think a good lube is Breakfree CLP. It is military spec and C-lean, L-ubricates, and P-rotechs. It is found in any good hunting/gun store. I like it better than Rem-oil because it is synthetic and will never gum up. I use it on my guns and knives.
 
Nice pics. For lubricants, try Militec and Tuf-Glide, or if knife is used to cut food, try something non-toxic like INOX.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone XD

For Django, http://aeth.real-delusion.net/3wa/P1000662.MOV - thats how i do it. But I do it in a continuous motion usually. I deliberately paused so you can see whats going on.

Btw, does anyone know the pros/cons of using a silicone spray onto the blade where it pivots? I have some of that stuff but haven't been game to use it.

-- Vince.
 
You flick towards the back of the knife and add some wrist action into it. Silicone is great! I use the radio shack silicone lube gel. Since it's a chisel edge, you're gonna sharpen more on the beveled side than the less beveled side. =D
 
Thanks for the video inspira.

I just realized that I could flick my wrist and the blade would open. I hadn't tried that xD.

Thanks for your help guys.

Enjoy your M16 :D

I'm enjoying my M21 :D
 
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