made a sword yesterday (not forged though)

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_Hey guys, i got bored and had steel and a welder and this came out! i havnt finished cleaning it up yet and it need some touch up spots but, i can chop with it and it doesnt break and i can flex the blade and its comfortable for me to use, so i would say a success. its chisel ground because the planer blades i used were already shaped that way and i havnt sharpened it yet. if this thread generates any interest i will post more pics. i also made a "things that arent knives ive made" thread in the gallery for my spears, trident, sicle, and short sword
 
Looks interesting. I don't like the handle at all, but I'm assuming that's just temporary. What's going on in the middle of the blade? And I'm confused as to what the welder is about?
 
no its not temporary, i like it. because you dont like it that means its temporary?
Confused as to what the welder is about? i had small pieces of different steel and wanted a sword. so i welded them together to make this. which also answers your question as to whats going on in the middle of the blade. the steel i have isnt a full sword length long so i had to attach multiple pieces. im going to smooth it out but i just did it yesterday and havnt had time to turn it into anything showy. i kinda like the scapheap look, makes it seem zombie apocolypse ish
 
Ah, I gotcha. I just figured it was temporary because that's what I do with my temporary handles, and it looks a little too thin to have a comfortable grip to my eyes, but to each his own. I also didn't think it looked even enough to be a finished product, but that could just be the blurriness of the picture, or something wrong with my eyes.

So you've actually got a weld joint in the middle of the blade? I'd be concerned about that failing and the end of the blade flying off and injuring someone. Not sure if that's an issue or not really, as I don't know enough about welding. I like the looks of the guard the most on this piece, personally.
 
making it pretty is a work in progress. the blade is D2 planer blades, 4 of them weleded together. im working on smoothing it out. i have chopped wood and flexed the blade and its still one piece, ill share more though after i do some touch up welding my friend misses. it is comfortable to my hands to hold and use. the gaurd is a piece of rebar, it was handy, so i used it. im currently beveling the center with an angle grinder and then ill sand the bevel and edges ect.

Guys this is something ive always wanted to do, is make my own sword. it cuts bottles and branches as well as my ronin katana, its not pretty yet, but its a good feeling and sense of satisfaction as a young man to say ive created something, especially since its my own sword. project 2 will be a lawn mower blade gladius
 
Personally, I think it's cool looking. When the blade work is done you could perhaps do the resin impregnated cord thing and wrap MORE cord to thicken the handle up. Another thing would be to cut maybe 6 pieces of that rebar about two inches long, weld them together with one in the center and 5 around, and weld that on as a pommel, that would keep with the rebar theme, as well as making it balance better if needed. As far as the weld failing, if it fails, it'll fail upon flexing, used for straight sweeping cuts and having been sharpened ( not attempting trees or anything foolish, of course) I don't see that happening. it should shear through water bottles and other "flesh-approximators" easily. i think the reason people worry is that more than one of us have had a "wall-hanger" with a threaded rod that's been welded on fail at the weld point, leaving us with a hilt and perhaps guard and a cheapie stainless blade lying in the grass 20 feet away,but this isn't that type of weld, it's not spot welded and sanded down dots of slag, it's an actual fusing of the metal that when sanded down and should be as strong as the original steel. Please post more as it comes along.
 
Everyone has to start somewhere, and I think it's a good start. Kudos to you for actually doing something to try to make your dream a reality.

Having said that I would echo the safety concerns expressed by those that are worried about blade failure at the welds, I can't imagine that a weld would be tough enough to handle the stresses of impact over the long term.

I've been told that if one wants to be a sword smith one should start out building knives. This seems reasonable to me. Learn the craft of forging, heat treating, finishing, gripping etc. especially if one's materials are limited on smaller projects, and then move up to longer blades.

Knives than quillion daggers than swords? Seems like a natural progression. Vince Evans started out making swords for dolls...
 
Is a weld generally weaker than the homogeneous steel around it? Also, is it possible to redo the heat treat to an area that has been welded, so it's back up to strength?
 
in my planer blade weld testing ive done so far...welds dont break, the steel does. untepered d2 is 64 hrc and at 600-900 degree temper would put them at 58-56 but i dont have that kinda oven
hows this for flex? it went more but by the time the pic took i wore out its really stiff.
 
in my planer blade weld testing ive done so far...welds dont break, the steel does.

See, that's what I've read, too. Yet, there is always concern about welds as a weak point, at least from what I've seen.

Do you think it's a heat treat issue? Is it that the weld ruins the heat treat; and if that is not fixed, the weld will be weaker in the same way un-heat-treated steel is?
 
i think any extreme temp change does mess up the structure but keep in mind at the hardness of the steel these are, i cant drill them with cobalt bits, so i think if i normalized the steel, or, since both are air hardening, maybe just tempered it, i would be good. basically my plan is to play with it untill it breaks, find out why, then fix it and start over. i enjoy experiments and hard use, i have my dont scratch thee knives, but not many.

maybe ill heat up a planer blade and wrap it in some insulation and see in a few hrs if its any softer
 
A proper, shielded weld on steel/stainless should be stronger than the welded material. When welds fail it's usually due to slag inclusions or atmospheric contamination. I like the rebar guard, ++ on a rebar pommel!
 
what kinda pommel design we talkin here? i must include this in my project. just a bar accross the bottom or an x or a cross or... hm
 
Maybe a ring pommel like a Chinese dao!
 
a rebar "basket" pommel would look really good on it
 



eventually ill straighten out the bevels, but this is what i do before cutting, then i sharpen and then buffing wheel it till it shaves.

i looked at some nordic swords and they kinda are flat and flare out so for now i threw this on there, but i can cut it off if something fancy hits me. this bar is about half an inch thick so id have to heat it up and bang it into a ring, which would be cool
i used my angle grinder sanding disc to bevel the center, its kinda sloppy but im worn out for the day
 
So looking into it on our trusty friends on wikipedia, based off of the dimensions, i might try a roman gladius next. i love the european double edged sword, its what comes to ind when i hear the word (cold steels hand and a half sword is one of my faves) but this hard D2 is too brittle for and heavy use, so as the learning experience continues, i think the smaller slightly less overwhelming gladius will be an inspired project i could to well at and make it a little fancier with only one set of 15 inch planer blades with no weld lines on the blade. but first before i make it all shiny ill just beat on it and see how durable it is and if its tough enough with the simpler structure, it will encourage me to do better work knowing i can actually use it. thanks for your input and support guys, i like small groups, but i like sharing with someone other than myself and the internet can be cruel.
Handle materials... it a scale construction too tacky for a sword? i cant drill this stuff so it would have to be epoxied, and it bonds to a bead blast finish quite well so i could just sand blast the handle area before adhering. oh theres an idea, a tactical gladius thats bead blasted with black g 10 handles...
 
Everyone has to start somewhere, and I think it's a good start. Kudos to you for actually doing something

I've been told that if one wants to be a sword smith one should start out building knives. This seems reasonable to me. Learn the craft of forging, heat treating, finishing, gripping etc. ...

Thanks its hard to put myself out there but one friend makes up for all the critics and insensative people. :)
Yes im knife making, i use CPM-M4 for my high end knives and some 154cm stainless hunting knives. ive been selling some older fixed blades for under a hundred on here trying to make some money for bills, i set up at the local flea markets and do sharpening and sell knives, but as you may guess theres very few who expect to see any quality knives. and even fewer who can slice phonebook paper with barely hdaring it get cut, which they can after im done with their knife. and sadly no one wants to pay money for a proper sharpening, but most come around after i show them what im capable of doing.
 
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