Made in China, possibly at same factory?

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Top to Bottom: Old Timer, Rite Edge, Böker-Plus, Schrade

These four, ostensibly from different manufacturers, are possibly from the same factory. They are nearly identical. The Old Timer and Schrade have full length pulls but are otherwise identical to the Rite Edge and Böker-Plus. It may be that each knife was made at different factories but on the same type of machinery. However, following the logic that the simplest explanation is also the most likely I would bet money that one factory in China is pumping out knives for numerous name brands.

I find this slightly repulsive. Is there no company pride in their product? Are the buyers of knives seen as nameless boobs, numbers to be sold to, pawns to be manipulated by name branding that once had real meaning but is now just a faint memory and a way trick people into buying their wares through old, long instilled brand loyalty from a time when the brand differentiation was real? If these are made at the same plant, or even on the same type of machinery, then the branding is meaningless in my eyes. Is my theory of one plant pumping out differing labeled knives plausible?
 
Queen, Camillus, Schrade and probably a few other older knife companies have been contracted to manufacture knives under another company's name, this is nothing new in this industry. Imo, It shouldn't matter if they all come from the same factory, it should just matter if they are quality or not. You are correct that they only reason they are putting the names from old out of business knife manufacturers is to get people to buy them due to brand loyalty or familiarity.
 
Pocketknives with the brands Buck, Case, KaBar, Remington, and Ulster (to name the ones I can think of off the top of my head) all made by Camillus when they were in business- not unusual at all. OH
 
trevytrev said:
Queen, Camillus, Schrade and probably a few other older knife companies have been contracted to manufacture knives under another company's name, this is nothing new in this industry. Imo, It shouldn't matter if they all come from the same factory, it should just matter if they are quality or not. You are correct that they only reason they are putting the names from old out of business knife manufacturers is to get people to buy them due to brand loyalty or familiarity.
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This.

Personally, I like GEC, Case, Queen, Canal Street.... and even a few of the China Brands like Rough Rider...


I don't like taking a slapping a classic name on a knife that isn't what it used to be.
 
Schrade and Old Timer are both brand names owned by Taylor Brands, so it is likely those two are made in the same factory and under contract to the same buyer. Though it would not surprise me if there are not several knife factories in China that will make knives to spec for whoever wants them made, and it may be that the contracts are shopped around between the manufacturers by the name-brand holders. It's a common practice with many products, not just knives.

Selling off a brand name to someone else or trying to cash in on an established brand name while slowly cheapening the hard-earned brand reputation is nothing new, in knives or anything else.

I bought a couple of the new Taylor Old Timer knives just for comparison. They seem to be decent tools for the price paid, though I think Rough Rider does a better job and for less money than Taylor.
 
Let's just talk about the knives, folks. OK to talk about the factories.

But let's not have discussion of trade names being bought and sold. That discussion is outside the posted guidelines of the Traditional Forum, and further posts on that topic will garner infractions.
 
While I don't agree with slapping a name on the knife because of brand loyalty to get uneducated monies from unsuspecting collectors I do like the fact that Taylor Brand under the Schrade banner has brought back many long discontinued patterns. Patterns that many who are new to collecting might otherwise never get to hold in their hands. Same applies to Rough Rider, they've revived so many patterns and eventually they will improve on their QC and production practices getting even better and companies like Taylor Brand too well eventually up their game to the benefit of all.

Just because it says China it's not bad but deceiving people with old boxes filled with poorly made knives and selling them as NOS is wrong and that I won't support.

BTW folks hopefully time permitting I'll be showing my face with my old regularity, I miss the front porch, it's so much more laidback than another place. Hope to get back to contributing at my old level hope everyone is well now back to the knives.
 
I'm giving Ted the benefit of the doubt and will assume that he was typing while I was posting.
 
I'll edit my post Frank if it's a problem, I may have misunderstood the OP, the knives look similar by the top two look similar enough to be made in the same place and the bottom two also but the top two are different from the bottom two, just look at the visible crown in the Sheepsfoot blade.
 
I think this thread need to be done, now.

The last paragraph from the OP was way out of line and I missed it. At this point, I do not think the thread can be salvaged.
 
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