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Magnessun's Micro-flint

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Wildertools runs on the premise of recycling, re-using and re-invigorating. I had the opportunity to hang with Rick yesterday at his shop and he was showing me how to get the most from your flint and charcloth. This takes miserly to the extremist level, but it was very cool to see just how 'Low you can go'.

First he started of with a teeny, wheeny knapped piece of flint, you can see him pointing to it on the table and the larger piece of flint it was taken off.

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The first trial was just getting that little piece to spark. Here he is holding and working his magic. Sorry for the blurr, not much light down where we were at and I was running the camera in continuous shooting mode.

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Notice his hold on the U-shaped striker in the top part of the photo. This was a great tip. By holding the U in the upward configuration, you lessen the chances of hanging up the striker rods during the down strokes. His hold is relatively loose, tight enough to keep the striker from jumping on the strike, but not too tight. Keeping that somewhat loose grip allows more spring on the striking rod and makes the striking surface a bit more 'lively' to provide better sparkes.

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Now for his next challenge - getting a piece of charcloth to go. Here he had a single strand, that he sort of bundled up and fit to the flint.

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Bang - lit that little baby up!

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Too bad I didn't get the smile on Rick's face when he got that thing lit. Of course the first words out of his mouth were 'Ouch'. The little charcloth only glowed for about 3 s so it might not be the kind of thing you can blow into fire but you could transfer that ember to a piece of tinder fungus or charcoal if needed.

Rick also demonstrated catching a spark on true tinder fungus and then had me do it for good measure. I didn't get shots of that but it worked and it was the first time I ever managed to get something other than charcloth to take a strike. He then generously provided me with a big chunk of tinder fungus. Very cool of him!

Rick will be displaying his wares at a custom show in Vegas next week. It was really cool to handle and hold his blades that he'll be displaying. As we all seen, he's been showcasing many of his recent works here on the forum. My quick pictures didn't quite do his 'works of art' justice so I just let you guys check out his other threads. The wharncurve (formerly known as the ...'nana') has a really nice chopper type, forward heavy balance to it. The sheath is something to behold. However, that long knife with the hilt is just fantastic. Great balance on it and the lines on this one, whether looking from the top of the spine to the flats are something to behold. Sheath for this one is a great design that includes a baldric style carry. It is one hell of a blade!

Okay maybe a couple of shots!

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Thanks Rick - for letting me hang by your shop again, learning a couple of new tricks and also the beers were great!
 
So whos idea was it to use a shread of flint to get a spark lol... But that he did do it is a feat in it self.. As for the knifes they are realy good looking.. They bring pics of mountain men on a horse dont ask me why they just do..

Sasha
 
Very cool thread, and excellent pics, Ken.

I like the minimalist, 'recyclist' philosophy demonstrated here. It makes me want to practice my fire-making skills, and refine them down to the basics.

Also, that close-up of Rick's knife in the first picture shows a great texture on the flats. Those knives have so much character. :thumbup:

All the best,

- Mike
 
Is the spark a piece of flint or a piece of steel?

I have tried making sparks with thin flakes of flint {chert} with various steels that I find, such as knives railroad spikes... and havent got a spark.
 
The spark is a fragment of the steel chipped off from the flint and spontaneously combusting in the air from the heat of the friction. Flint strikers are generally made harder than knives, the high hardness contributing to better sparks. However, you can get sparks off of just about any steel in the right conditions.

Think about about all those shots of the knife makers grinding their steel on the belt grinder. What you see is a shower of sparks coming off the knife. The difference is that belt grinder is generating a lot more velocity at the contact area then what you generate on the strike. Rick mentioned that you can get softer steels to spark, but you need to swing faster than you would with a harder steel.

Finally, your aim needs to be pretty good. You are trying to shave off a piece of the surface of the steel. So what you want is to hit just the very edge of the steel, not a big part of the side. When you hit it right, you aren't knocking the flint hard, it is just a slight graze and the sparks really shower.

In your case dipbait - one thing that works well for me in terms of learning styles is to learn using the optimal materials first, refine your technique on that and then go to more difficult materials. I suggest just buying a striker and learning how to effectively create sparks with that. Once you are good at using the striker, then try on more difficult materials like the spine of a knife etc.
 
Thanks Ken, I had fun talking with you in between smackin' my kids around. Awesome pictures as always.

Rick
 
Rick is something else when it comes to taking bush studies very seriously and often to extremes. There is a lot one can learn from him.

Of course as always the knives are fantastically done.

One thing though.....he smiled and it didn't scare the crap out of you?! I think I would find it most unnerving!
 
Very cool indeed. That seems like it would be pretty difficult to do. I find it cool that even the smallest amount can be helpful. Thanks for sharing.
 
If he tries to market and sell that kit... I am not buying!

Whaaaat?... I made little pouches out of gutted pea skins and everything.


Only $175.... includes a spare flint flake and up to 7, yes SEVEN 1" long char threads.


The first batch got messed up when I tried to stamp them with my maker's mark...:o




Rick
 
Whaaaat?... I made little pouches out of gutted pea skins and everything.


Only $175.... includes a spare flint flake and up to 7, yes SEVEN 1" long char threads.


The first batch got messed up when I tried to stamp them with my maker's mark...:o




Rick

Okay - damn - I will take TWO!



But that is my final offer!


TF
 
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