Maker Survey: Where do you sell your knives? What works for you?

Where do you sell your knives? Method and venue?

  • Commissions / Orders

    Votes: 19 67.9%
  • Newly finished / Announcement

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • Bid up / Auction

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shows

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • Personal website

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • Dealer website

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • Bladeforums exchange (or other forums)

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • Instagram

    Votes: 16 57.1%
  • Facebook

    Votes: 14 50.0%
  • eBay / Etsy

    Votes: 1 3.6%

  • Total voters
    28

SharpByCoop

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Hi Makers,

This one is for you. I think the Bladeforums viewers would like to know where best to acquire your work.

What is your standby and best method? Are your looking for better methods? Maybe you will learn from others.

Feel free to click ALL that apply and please add your comments below.

Educate the buying public.
 
I have recently switched from a commissions basis to strictly selling through Etsy. As recent as a few weeks ago. I’ve already made 5 sales. My reason for switching is because I feel it affords me the ability for more personal creativity. I make what I’d like to make, put it up for sale and if someone likes it, they buy it. I felt like doing commissions, for me, limited my own creativity. So! Etsy it is.
 
This is a good idea Jim. As someone who made a lot of knives a while ago, got reasonably well known, cut production back severely for 5-6 years due to moving, jobs, life, etc., and is now trying to get back in the game as an "unknown," this information could be pretty useful. Maybe the game hasn't changed as much as I'd have thought, but either way, any results will only be true for the crowd that hangs around BF. Not sure how representative that is of the broader knife buying world.
 
I shoot for a bunch of these outlets. I've sold through 7 of 10 in the last 12 months. That said, I'd say 1/3 are orders/commissions, at least 1/3 go to my mailing list on a newly finished/announcement type format, and I sell the rest here and there.
Personal website is for catching email addresses. Instagram gets a few sales. FB I don't try to sell much, just participate in groups. Dealers occasionally get my leftovers. Shows are hit or miss for sales, but I try to do a couple of good ones a year. Good post!
 
Unfortunately more knife makers don't do commission work....

Talking with other collectors, what I've gathered.... Some makers might be good at what they do. They can make a nice knife. Maybe they do it as they go? But they might have a difficult time understanding what their customer wants, or are unable to size up what the customer's needs are? Or maybe (we) as customers are ignorant of what we want? Idk.....

But I think those makers would rather just make what they do, Without doing commissions.....and risking disappointing a customer, and getting a negative review? I'd love more makers opinion on this.
 
But I think those makers would rather just make what they do, Without doing commissions.....and risking disappointing a customer, and getting a negative review? I'd love more makers opinion on this.

For most of us, knifemaking is a hobby or sideline, even if a potentially profitable one. As such, there are several factors at play in the decision to not take commissions.

First, for me anyway, when I took orders knifemaking felt like work, which was counter to it's purpose and place as a hobby. I didn't like making knives when I had to do it, especially when I was a year behind and didn't have a lot of spare time. Second, as mentioned, with knifemaking as a sideline in an otherwise pretty busy life, many of us don't get to make nearly as many knives as we'd like in the best of times. If I'm using my limited knife time to work on stuff I don't like, that's even less time I get to spend making stuff I do. That's not a worthwhile tradeoff for me.

To mitigate this problem I quit taking new orders.

However, I always tell folks that if they want a knife of mine, if they have a good idea, they should definitely let me know. If it's something I want to make, an idea I like, etc., I might make it, or at least make something like it. I'll give them first dibs, but won't commit to a deadline, and if they don't like it they don't have to buy it. So, I'm still making what I like. I realize this might lose me some potential sales, but for me, being happy with what I'm making is more important than the money I get from it.

I've also started spending a much larger proportion of my knife time working on knives that I'd prefer to be defined by. I make a really nice hunter, for example, but daggers and historically or literarily influenced knives are WAY cooler, and that's what I want to be known for. This is true even if, practically speaking, I make more hunting knives in sheer volume (they're MUCH easier and faster, and sometimes you need to buy belts). My long term success as a knifemaker of (hopeful, eventual) global renown is going to be rooted in finding or converting customers that like what I make, that think the same things are cool, that push me to learn new skills, and that can appreciate or even influence my style. I can't disappoint customers unless I start making knives I don't care about. In short, while I need customers to make this whole thing work, but I'm doing this for me, not them. In exchange, they get the best I can do.

That's just my $.02, and I realize that I may not be normal in this (add it to the list...).
 
For most of us, knifemaking is a hobby or sideline, even if a potentially profitable one. As such, there are several factors at play in the decision to not take commissions.

First, for me anyway, when I took orders knifemaking felt like work, which was counter to it's purpose and place as a hobby. I didn't like making knives when I had to do it, especially when I was a year behind and didn't have a lot of spare time. Second, as mentioned, with knifemaking as a sideline in an otherwise pretty busy life, many of us don't get to make nearly as many knives as we'd like in the best of times. If I'm using my limited knife time to work on stuff I don't like, that's even less time I get to spend making stuff I do. That's not a worthwhile tradeoff for me.

To mitigate this problem I quit taking new orders.

However, I always tell folks that if they want a knife of mine, if they have a good idea, they should definitely let me know. If it's something I want to make, an idea I like, etc., I might make it, or at least make something like it. I'll give them first dibs, but won't commit to a deadline, and if they don't like it they don't have to buy it. So, I'm still making what I like. I realize this might lose me some potential sales, but for me, being happy with what I'm making is more important than the money I get from it.

I've also started spending a much larger proportion of my knife time working on knives that I'd prefer to be defined by. I make a really nice hunter, for example, but daggers and historically or literarily influenced knives are WAY cooler, and that's what I want to be known for. This is true even if, practically speaking, I make more hunting knives in sheer volume (they're MUCH easier and faster, and sometimes you need to buy belts). My long term success as a knifemaker of (hopeful, eventual) global renown is going to be rooted in finding or converting customers that like what I make, that think the

same things are cool, that push me to learn new skills, and that can appreciate or even influence my style. I can't disappoint customers unless I start making knives I don't care about. In short, while I need customers to make this whole thing work, but I'm doing this for me, not them. In exchange, they get the best I can do.

That's just my $.02, and I realize that I may not be normal in this (add it to the list...).

Good answer....
I would be like this too. I think

I'm new to knife making.... I'm not selling yet, although I've been asked.
for (Me)..... The reasons I'm making knives is because I'm not finding people to make the knives that I wanna buy.... I've got knives in my head that aren't being sold. :/
At first I was frustrated, but then I saw an opportunity
 
What it boils down to is, ya gotta do everything you can. I checked 5 of the boxes. One thing I noticed that you didn't list is Magazine ads or Magazine appearances. I haven't bought many magazine ads but, as you know, I have been in 30 or 40 magazines, with your help. They have been a huge driver in our success. We thank you Coop. Coop takes professional shots of our knives and submits them to 5 or 6 periodicals on our behalf. Coop charges for the service, and it's well worth it. Inclusion in the magazines is free.

The other thing I should mention is, people don't usually buy high end knives the first time they see you or one of your knives. We have found it takes about three exposures for some one to buy a knife in the range we are at. They will see us at Blade show, then in a magazine and then maybe they'll walk into our store, or visit our web site, or any combination of the five boxes I checked and two venues that weren't listed, magazines and our store.

Another thing that helped us a lot early on was local gun shows and bazaars.

I know that many people won't have their own store to show their knives in but for us, it is our biggest outlet.
 
Thank to those who have joined the discussion. Good info.

I'm guessing this is 'private info' and many makers don't want to share thoughts?

Four makers have responded. There are twelve different maker's posts on the first page on this form. None of them in here?

Jason, I'm flummoxed as well. Sigh.
 
as I transition into a new livelihood which will rely, in large part, on me making and selling my work, I've been thinking about this a fair amount. Unfortunately, I don't have much useful to add, since I've only done the money for knife thing once so far and that was yesterday, lol.

Fortune, (and Nathan Carothers) has been good to me, and I've been able to make some money over the years designing knives. That's something I've nurtured and subsidized for years, and my patience and passion for it all is paying off. Not enough to live on but a piece of the puzzle.

Now that I can make knives myself, (in a lot less than 3 years haha) my design work is getting significantly better, too, since I can test as I go.

My problem is that I'm not hungry like I used to be, but I think that also might be my solution. I like to think that I could put together an email list of people who sincerely want to be patrons of mine, which means people who have my back, and blast them all when I have something ready. Bespoke designs are super interesting as well, but I have a lot to learn before walking down that path.

I've dealt with enough punters during my life to veer toward the high end where most folk- in the custom cutlery world, anyway- know what they want and/or what they're talking about. Having owned a passion driven business for over 16 years, I really do understand loyalty and maintaining the good graces of trusted patrons. I also understand time wasting punters, and I think that will serve me well going forward.

I think my ideal scenario would be to invent and create movie and tv knives, swords, weapons etc., continue designing the finest quality cutlery tools available, (CPK- sorry, had to plug) and let my wild hares free, only to be snatched up by folks who want a piece of something which would not exist had I not made it. As I gain expertise, I know that things will change. One thing I do know that I need, is a website which can serve as both portfolio and online store, but there's no rush on that. I'm old enough now to really understand the value of patience and being methodical.

The idea of making a bunch of simple, inexpensive knife tools and travelling to various craft fairs and the like in our rv to sell them feels like something that'll happen at some point. Just gotta get ole Bilbo Wagons fixed up and ready for the road!

Sorry I don't have much to add, but I do appreciate having a place where I can spout off my ideas and work through them a bit
 
I’m honestly kind of sad this forum and this this thread are meh. In 2013 this thread would have been epic.
Why do you think that is?

As a tangent..... I've been in the brewing industry in some sort for close to 30 years. I'm seeing something similar, not sure why?

In the early 90's craft beer took off nationally. It was revitalized and new to people. Everyone I knew was making beers in their backyard. Often, many of us went on to careers in the field. Some opening/owning their own breweries.

Kinda like Lorien Lorien said about making something that others appreciated, and couldn't get somewhere else..... That's why I started brewing. I couldn't find any oatmeal stouts to drink....

Now....there are tons of breweries, (and tons of knifemakers). Is everyone who wanted to, already doing it? Idk....Are they too busy doing it? When I was young, I'd talk about beer ALL day. It was new to me.

Just speculating..... I still do talk Alot about beer, but with my peers. Occasionally with brand new people. Maybe Alot of knifemakers here "grew up" together? Back in the good Ole days (2013?) Fine tuned their crafts. Mastered what they know .. perhaps moved on? Certain folks enjoy passing on their knowledge and experience. Certain folks aren't as much of a People Person....

Wish I was here then.... Too.
 
off topic, but the unstoppable machine that was Bladeforums ran right into Instagram in the early 2010s. As more makers and collectors gravitated toward that stupid easy platform, Bladeforums started losing content and participation. I think that will change as more people realize how and why Bladeforums is different. Also, I think that we are in the midst of a major demographic shift which could be playing a part in so many ways that you'd have to write a book on the topic just to scratch the surface.

Bladeforums is owned and run by knife people. Instagram is owned and run by who-the-f*ck-knows. That alone will eventually draw people back in, who in turn may draw new members that will benefit from the massive amount of information available, and the classifieds section. In the meantime, I pledge to contribute more to Bladeforums because, for me, it all started here, (more or less) and I feel loyalty and commitment to this kick ass forum.
 
off topic, but the unstoppable machine that was Bladeforums ran right into Instagram in the early 2010s.

Exactly this. Although they are very different formats, words plus pics here, pics plus words over there, the hassle of hosting files and the demise of photobucket etc. has made forums harder to use than Instagram.

But they are very much not the same. Try asking a "how to" question on insta compared to Shop Talk, for example.

This particular subforum was always about show and tell, and so the shift in picture sharing culture has been hard on it.
 
I have been making knives for a bit but don't really like selling them. I always wish I
had it back to improve it. Have sold some and it's usually random contacts and repeat buyers. I will eventually get the appropriate membership and sell some here to buy more tools.. This a view from the hobbyist retired side who reads way more than post.
I don't really want the knifemaker label though for some reason and all other social media is not for me. But I try real hard to make a quality knife and there is a place for a nicely soldered guard, Jason !
James
 
I’ve sold a vast majority of mine through orders, but I sold some I finished up and advertised.
 
I sold a few knives on here recently and it was a really nice kick in the butt for me. Now I suddenly want to sell all of my knives right here! I used to make knives for fun and now I realized selling a knife can be part of the fun!
 
Maybe retail stores should be added to the choices. I'm mostly here but no one's mentioned gun stores specifically, I was in one for a season but I can only finish less than one per week on average and felt I needed to do better than that. In the winter I'm in a remote desert RV resort my business partner's Dad set me up and that works well.

Be wary of advertising...it works! I had an opportunity to be in a catalog put out by a major reloading manufacturer, the blue one, (my real life bookkeeper's husband works there) but when I was told what the response might be it was overwhelming and I reluctantly passed on that.
 
Getting around the timing issues with me not being able to make knives very quickly is my biggest issue. A lot of people want a knife from me and have expressed an interest but me not being able to put a finger on exactly when my next knife will come out is a problem.
 
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