Makers, any knives you would like to have back?

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I am curious as to if the makers on the forums have any knives out there that they would like back? Maybe it was your first knife? Maybe there was something else significant about it? If there are any you would like to get back please tell us which ones and why?
 
You better believe it!

I made a damascus bowie for myself. This knife was for me. It was made in my favorite materials, and designed to fit perfectly in my hand. Well, I went ahead and put it on my table at Expo "96 with an outragous price tag. The show opened and within 20 minutes a guy walked up to my table, looked at the knife, looked at the sheath, asked me a few questions, then started laying down hundred dollar bills on my table. I was sad that it sold, but was thrilled at what I got for and figured that I would just make another. I never have made its replacement.

It was ladder pattern damascus with brass guard and butt cap, spalted maple handle and two brass spacers. The whole thing shined like a beacon.

One day I will find it and get it back.
 
The first 10 I ever made! I hope and pray that none of those pieces of junk ever surface! (and I hope that Dad never brings the ones I made him out of the drawer! :)
 
My first knives are well secured. The one that I wished I had never sold was the masters smith dagger that was refused by the judges. I loved that knife, still do. I sold it to a man I strongly admire at the show and my wife just bought it back from him. It cost about three times as much as I sold it for, but it is now where it belongs.
 
Few I wish I had back..

Geno Denning Model B with giraffe bone..
Geno Denning LiL C

and probally the one that bugs me most because I could really use the knife now would be the Dozier Toothpick with Ivory Mircarta
 
Hello Nick: If there is any knife in the world of knives that I dislike, it is the 'early european quillion dagger', I have tried to like them, but can't. The knife I made as my 'art' dagger had a very insignificant (but perfect) Damascus blade, to (in my mind) indicate the useless nature of this kind of blade. From the blade back I went all out, a supreme S shaped guard, symetrical but oposite. crafted all by hand, no lathe to turn out an artivicial facit of man and machine. The handle was of absolute supreme sheep horn, the only I have ever seen with green in it. I had saved the horn for years for this knife. The sheath was crafted from a piece of elk horn, a majestic king of nature who had died of old age. The horn had laid in the forest for years, was mouse eaten and allmost gone. I reinforced it and developed a compliment to the dagger. All significant of the tenacious hold man tends to cherish for what was, the ideas at least, some real - some not. There was significant reality in the knife, but not the blade.

The judges did not buy it, they wanted a blade of times past that to me was, is, and always will be useless. They accepted my othere masters blades, but not the dagger. I had a year to make a real one. I did and it passed. I still look at the event with highly mixed emotions. Art, if it exists in the world of knives cannnot be achieved by a copy of past dreams of man. I feel that if there is to be an 'art' knife to be judged, it should have emotiion, thought, qualities beyone copy. I had better quit the discussion now, it is kind of off the topic of this thread, maybe.
 
Nope.

I was a collector and fan before I was ever a knifemaker. I had been to the Montana Knifemakers Association show, bought my first custom, and a copy of the Blades'n'Stuff catalog before making my first knife. I read the magazines, and belonged to the knifemaker's mailing list where I kept my mouth shut and absorbed the knowledge.
Before selling any knives, I went to the American Guild Show to see what was expected.

I have the first two knives I ever made in a display case, and really they aren't that bad. The third knife was given away as a door prize at a show, and I was happy with it. Only problem would be that it was not cryo'd, but it was triple tempered.

Are the knives I make now better? Of course, but by educating myself first, being anal retentive by nature, and just putting stupid amount of time into each piece, I was able to make knives I was proud of, and still am.
 
I have never sold a knife that I was ashamed of,they were always the best I could do at the time,and I refuse to buy into the idea of buying up all my early stuff to hide from the public in the misguided belief that people will always think my work has always been as it is now,plus,it keeps me humble.Any others,well,I just figured if I wanted one like that for myself,I could simply make it.;)
 
Originally posted by Ed Fowler
My first knives are well secured. The one that I wished I had never sold was the masters smith dagger that was refused by the judges. I loved that knife, still do. I sold it to a man I strongly admire at the show and my wife just bought it back from him. It cost about three times as much as I sold it for, but it is now where it belongs.

I think we would all like to see a picture of that if it's possible...

JD
 
Hello JD, Sorry, I have regular photos, but no digital stuff, and would not know how to get it in here if I had one. I will maybe send a photo to Phill and have him work it out.
 
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Well, it seems PhotoPoint is down.So let's try this?
 
Thanks Phil: These are photos of the knife I submitted as an art knife. Now I invite all who wish to voice their opinions, what to you think, is it art or not?
 
Well Ed, I can't say I like it much, but I would have to say that it does represent art as I see it. To me your Iron Mistress in Damascus is a much higher form of art. Now that is a beautiful knife. I do realize that it is not a dagger and would not have been appropriate for your ABS test.
 
That stubby dagger certainly does make a statement. I think it very clearly expresses your stance on the dagger issue. :)

~Mitch
 
Is it art? Well of course! Do I like it, simply stated, no. It seems to me to be way out of balance and not a classic quillion dagger.

As to your comments of art to one may not be art to another. That is true. And to judge "art" is an impossible task. However, after taking four years of art classes, I have learned some things. A stinking pile of dung tossed on a canvas can be considered art. Is it? I don't have the answer to that question, and don't think anybody really does. But when studying art as an academic you must adhear to the guidelines set before you. If given an assignment to do a pen and ink still life, you can not turn in a water color. Is the water color still art? Of course, but it did not meet the guidelines of pen and ink. So while your dagger is art, it did not meet the guidelines set forth by the ABS therefore it did not pass. They must set out these guidelines. If they were not there, makers would turn in a rail road spike knife and call it an art knife. After all who is to be the final judge on art?

BTW, I thought that for your MS that the quillion dagger had to have a wire inlaid fluted handle.
 
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