Making a slipjoint your own?

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Is there anything special you do to make a slipjoint knife your own, make you feel that it is truly yours?

When I get a new knife, I usually don't use it or even feel like it's mine until I tune it up to my liking. Until then, it sits on my dresser until such a time as I can work on it a bit and personalize the knife to my own satisfaction.

I never really thought about this, though, until recently. I purchased a Case Small Hunter as a gift for a friend. He's the barber who has cut my hair for a few years now. He came over from Italy in the 40s as a boy, and is about 75. He's been growing figs for decades now in his backyard. At first I had a hard time believing that he could grow figs in Massachusetts. He likes to kid around and is always pulling someone's leg. He took me to his backyard and showed me a fig tree that looks 30-40 years old.

The secret, he told me, is that every winter he buries the tree 6' under. He just excavates one side of the ground and leans the tree over with whatever roots are still attached, covers the tree with plywood, and piles on the dirt. Evidently the soil that deep never freezes and the tree is safe until Spring. He even had a write-up in the local paper showing his tree and demonstrating the burial process. What a labor of love. The tree was brought over by an Italian cousin from the original family farm in Salarma(?)--so the figs are a connection to his family and roots there.

He started giving me figs in late summer/early fall. I took them home to my family and we all enjoyed them in small amounts. They remind me of the figs my grandfather used to grow near the AZ/NV/UT border. Sweet, rich and tender. After a year, he offered me a fig shoot to plant if I were willing to take care of it. OH, YEAH!! I eagerly took him up on the offer there and then, but last year he buried the tree before I could get a cutting. This year he promised me another cutting. When I went to pick it up, it was over 8' tall and still had a few figs on it. I was expecting something small, but this "cutting" is so large that I think I'm going to be getting figs next year when I plant it!

Anyway, I wanted to thank him, so I got him a Case Small Hunter as a gift, knowing that he is an old-school guy and would appreciate a pocketknife. The knife arrived and I checked it out--the action was a bit rough, and there was a pretty large burr to one side of the edge. I then realized that I had to clean it up for him, and I realized that I clean up all my knives for myself before I really consider them my own.

I drizzled some Dawn detergent into the pivot, worked it really well with a toothbrush, then flushed all the dirty metal particles out with hot water. A small drop of mineral oil, some working the action back and forth, and things were considerably smoothed up. I then set to work on the edge, removing the burr and putting a much sharper edge on the blade. When it was sharp to my satisfaction, I polished the blade a bit with a Cape Cod Cloth to make it shiny and remove all micro-scratches, did the same with the nickel-silver bolsters (man, are they bright now!), and put a very light coat of mineral oil on the scales. Now it looks and works great, so I carefully wrapped it up and gave it to him. Can't wait for him to open it. He's got a garden full of Italian vegetables in the backyard, so I figure it'll come in handy.

This is pretty much the same ritual I go through with my own knives, before feeling that I "own" them. Any of you do the same?
 
This is a fascinating story. Very cool. I wonder if that burying trick would work on other types of fruit trees up in the great white north as well. I have never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing this with us here. Perhaps you could let us know he likes the pocket knife you intend to give him after he receives it. I'll bet he loves it. One just has to have a good slippy to garden with.

In any event, I stopped buying new knives a while back. Instead, I try to search the web, garage sales and the local shows for old vintage knives in the best serviceable condition I can. I have found that the vintage knives that were made in the 1970's and prior to that era by all the good USA firms that we all have come to know and love like Case, S&M, Queen, Schrade Walden, ect. had overall workmanship superior to the more recent slipjoints from the same manufacturers. I also like the older steel in these pocket knives better as well.

So, I then bring them home and they typically go right into a mineral oil bath to loosen up all the rust, oxidation, dirt, gunk, or what ever gook got encrusted inside the liners and/or back-springs through the years. This procedure also conditions all natural scales as well, Wood, Stag, Bone, Ivory, Rams Horn, ect.. The only knives you cannot do this with are knives that have celluloid handles. For some reason this process will ruin celluloid. It should be mentioned I have had great results with Derlin as well.

After I work all the unwanted particles out of the knife as it sits in the bath,(1-2 days time) I take her to the next stage to work to improve on the blades condition. I hand sand with wet-dry metal working sand paper from coarse to smooth, up to 2000 grit if necessary to get the blades looking fine.. As far as sharpening the blades go, I pretty much do what you do.. They are sunnyd personalized at this juncture

I have a question though: What is "Cape Cod Cloth" and where do you get it?

Anthony
 
I would do that with every knife I have ever gotten, new or used. I felt I had to thoughly clean and sharpen to my satisfaction or it wasn't really mine yet. Same for guns.

Maybe it's some sort of bonding/re-doing the karma thing we feel compeled to do. Like maybe all that handling at the start is what makes it ours. Putting a little of our chi into the knife.
 
You can have it customized to your liking. New scales, filework, engraved bolsters, etc.

I know a couple guys that do great work on slippies. I have a Boker sodbuster that is getting some rams horn scales and bolsters. I like soddies but they are just too plain for me. I wanted one that was "my" knife and one of a kind.

You wouldn't have to go to that extreme. You could have his initials engraved in the bolsters. Getting a nice leather pouch for it is an option if he prefers belt carry.
 
Maybe it's some sort of bonding/re-doing the karma thing we feel compeled to do. Like maybe all that handling at the start is what makes it ours. Putting a little of our chi into the knife.
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If a knife isn't acceptably sharp the first thing I'll do is put a convex edge on it. For slippies I'll also oil the scales and pivot. I work the blades open and close for an hour or so trying to get all the grit out of the joint. More often than not this'll improve the walk and talk of a knife.

If a knife has wood handles I'll really have some fun. I'll put on a few coats of Tru-Oil, and I'll steel wool each coat when it dries. This has the double effect of accentuating the wood's natural grain, as well as adding a layer of protection against moisture. I did that on a Brown mule I have. It made all the difference. I didn't like the way this knife felt when I first got it, but the Tru-Oil treatment made the handles nice and smooth.
 
Yeah, I do similar things. Clean everything, make sure it's sharpened to my standards, fix any minor imperfections in blade alignment, etc. In fact, I've reflexively done it to new knives I've gotten, and only halfway through the process realized I didn't really like the knife all that much. Oh well, it's "mine" now... :)

I use mineral oil on the moving parts, and AG Russell's "Rust Free" on carbon blades.

-- Sam
 
I do the same. The last 2 cases I bought, a mini copperlock, and a mini 2 blade hunter felt a little crunchy on the pivots. The mini hunter has a slow blade. If I open and close my older cases a eighties dot and a XX they are smooth as silk.I sent them back and they fixed them, although the mini hunter is still crunchy and slow.
I have a Bulldog sowbelly with a rather plain looking stag that I have for an EDC that I am going to sharpen right now.
*edited* Just went in for a mineral oil bath.Ever since I've owned it the knife has a lot of black junk maybe from finishing. I'm hoping the MO wil get it out and smooth it up a bit.
 
Yeah a cleaning and sharpening. I don't feel a knife is mine until I get my edge on it. My brother inlaw makes knives his by breaking off the tip. :)
 
Sunnyd, I too am buy all my knives pre-owned now. I get more satisfaction out of taking them home and bringin em' back to life... I've actually gotten to the point that I prefer they don't have the original box(in most cases )...
Less things to have to deal with..
 
Seems as though lots of us (myself included) prefer a second-hand knife to a new one.
To really "make it mine," I sit down with my sharpening supplies and put an edge on it to my liking (new knife or used), and clean/lube it.
 
Honestly, the only thing I do to make my knives my own is USE them. Memories and stories are what make my knives personal.
 
This is a fascinating story. Very cool. I wonder if that burying trick would work on other types of fruit trees up in the great white north as well. I have never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing this with us here. Perhaps you could let us know he likes the pocket knife you intend to give him after he receives it. I'll bet he loves it. One just has to have a good slippy to garden with.

In any event, I stopped buying new knives a while back. Instead, I try to search the web, garage sales and the local shows for old vintage knives in the best serviceable condition I can. I have found that the vintage knives that were made in the 1970's and prior to that era by all the good USA firms that we all have come to know and love like Case, S&M, Queen, Schrade Walden, ect. had overall workmanship superior to the more recent slipjoints from the same manufacturers. I also like the older steel in these pocket knives better as well.

So, I then bring them home and they typically go right into a mineral oil bath to loosen up all the rust, oxidation, dirt, gunk, or what ever gook got encrusted inside the liners and/or back-springs through the years. This procedure also conditions all natural scales as well, Wood, Stag, Bone, Ivory, Rams Horn, ect.. The only knives you cannot do this with are knives that have celluloid handles. For some reason this process will ruin celluloid. It should be mentioned I have had great results with Derlin as well.

After I work all the unwanted particles out of the knife as it sits in the bath,(1-2 days time) I take her to the next stage to work to improve on the blades condition. I hand sand with wet-dry metal working sand paper from coarse to smooth, up to 2000 grit if necessary to get the blades looking fine.. As far as sharpening the blades go, I pretty much do what you do.. They are sunnyd personalized at this juncture

I have a question though: What is "Cape Cod Cloth" and where do you get it?

Anthony

I love to do the same SunnyD.

I've saved a few knives from utter obscurity and made them loved once more.
:D
 
Here is a link for the Cape Cod Cloth. It is a cotton cloth with polishing compound imbedded in it. I've found them to put a high polish on steel blades and the very soft nickel-silver bolsters.

Another polish I recommend is Weiman's. If you have any copper that needs polishing, I've found several products that will remove tarnish, but only Weimans will add back that factory shine as well. I got that tip from an insider in the copper pan industry--it's what the factory uses to get that "fresh from factory" shine. Heat the pan first.
 
I find that I like used knives too. I've bought alot more new ones, but I never worry about putting an old knife in my pocket to use. I've been working really hard at getting over my desire to make a knife a safe queen. The more I look at the unused knives I have the more I put on Ebay! I'm really trying to actually use the things I own. Alot of that has to do with the posts I read here. Nothing wrong with collecting and nothing wrong with safe queens if that's what you're into. I think the key is being true to yourself and if using your knives makes you happy use them and if you enjoy displaying them then by all means display them. It's the differences in people that make them interesting.

I view the way I use the knives in my collection to the way that my kids view thier Christmas gifts. I spend alot on a knife that I've been saving for and I don't want to use it (case and point a Case XX Fly Fishing knife for $200 spends its days rolled up for safe keeping:confused:) spend less and I can't carry it enough (i.e. SAK Minichamp). I buy my kids a nice Christmas gift and they spend the day playing with the box! Seems like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree:D. Go figure.
 
OK, I'm making a New Year's Resolution: Find an old knife (the older the better), and fix it up to be a beautiful old user. Guess I better start hitting the estate sales.
 
Several years ago I found an old Russell butcher knife in our building's shop. Cleaned it up, very carefully cleaned up the handle, so you could still see the 'RUSSELL' stamp in the wood, and used it for years. It started my habit of 'personalizing' any knife I buy.

thx - cpr
 
OK, I'm making a New Year's Resolution: Find an old knife (the older the better), and fix it up to be a beautiful old user. Guess I better start hitting the estate sales.

yeap , yard sales , garage sales , ebay , pawn shops ( although many pawn shops vastly overpirce older knives ).
 
I don't do anything special to a new knife, unless it needs some particular attention. I consider a knife to have become "mine" the first time I really rely on it to do some task that I would not have been able to do without it.
 
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