Making your own bow and arrows

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I was thinking about adding this to the recent "Rebirth of Archery" thread, but because that is so big now I decided to start a new one.

Here are links to some "do it yourself" archery articles that have just got added to the Primitive Ways website.

Of course the methods described in these articles aren't the only correct way to go about making yourself some functional archery gear.... but they worked for me and they may be of use to somebody who is wondering where to start.

Here are the links:

Making a bundle bow, arrow making (including how to make simple adhesive tape fletchings)
http://www.primitiveways.com/bow_and_arrow.html

Using just a hatchet to make a functional bow
http://www.primitiveways.com/hatchet_bow.html

True story about getting a pig with a primitive bow and arrow
http://www.primitiveways.com/pig_hunting%20.html

Best wishes.... Coote.
 
coote:

Thanks for the links. Years ago I subscribed to Primitive Archery magazine and after reading and participating in the "Rebirth of Archery" thread I have bought another subscription.

I look forward to reading the articles in your links. Your postings in the previous thread were very interesting.

Thanks again.

:)
 
Coote I am eager to look up that link on hatchet bow making . Maybe my first tree stave will be made with one .
 
Kevin,

If you go to the Paleo Planet web site, in the archery forum, there is a tutorial by Tim Baker (of the Traditional Bowyer's Bibles fame) called your first wooden bow. An excellent resource. Also, if you know anybody who has the back issues of Wilderness Way magazine, there is a 2 parter about making your first wooden bow, by Steve Hulsey, who was the original editor or publisher of Wilderness Way and Primitive Archer magazine. On top of that they have tons of expert bowmakers (refugees from Primitive Archer discussion forums) there, who are more than happy to help (at Paleo Planet, that is.)
 
I second Doc in recommending the Paleoplanet website if you want to be in touch with some experienced, friendly do-it-yourself traditional/primitive archery enthusiasts. I have spent hours at this site. Here's the link:

http://b16.ezboard.com/bpaleoplanet69529

I don't use one much nowadays, but when I am using a scraper or a drawknife to make a bow (or an axehandle or whatever) I have found that a shaving horse is a handy thing to hold the stave while working on it. I made myself a simple one from a wide plank of wood and some steel fittings. The working end of the shaving horse is supported by an inverted pipe "T" which fits into a hole bored into the underside of the plank. The bowmaker sits on a stump at this end while pushing his foot against the pivoting clamp lever that pivots on a single bolt that passes through the lever and the plank. The stave can be held in place by uprights that are fastened to the side of the plank. The uprights on the shaving horse in the picture are bits of flat steel that are bolted loosely to the plank.

The pivoting clamp lever was made from bits of one-inch square hollow section steel. The part of the clamp that is forced against the stave has a bit of plastic tube jammed over it to avoid damaging the stave... and maybe it helps to grip the wood a bit. If it isn't easy to get steel parts made for your shaving horse, you could think about the problem a bit and probably make something quite satisfactory entirely out of wood.

If the whole shaving horse wants to push away from the operator, a cord can be tied to it and attached to the stump that the operator sits on. Or you can just jam it up against a wall or a tree or whatever.

shavinghorse.jpg


Of course you can make a bow without having a drawknife and a shaving horse. A sturdy pocketknife would be enough if pressed.... although a chopping tool like a sharp hatchet would speed things up. I have made bows using just a hatchet and I enjoy the process.

If there is one thing I have realized, there is seldom just one correct way of making things like primitive bows. Some methods may suit some circumstances and materials more than others, but I am convinced that there are a variety of ways that a person could go about producing a bow good enough to bag an animal. It is easy to be deterred from starting a project if you think it has to be done a certain way -especially if this method is difficult or requires materials that you don't have. Sometimes, I think, it is best just to start the job with what you have at hand and see what happens.

I try to keep things as simple (and as cheap) as I can.

It would be great to hear what other folks have done to come up with simple home-made archery gear.

Best wishes.... Coote, Nelson, New Zealand.
 
How long must a tree trunk be seasoned for before I can hatchet a bow from it ? The only tree I could find that is small enough will make one bow . It is about 2 1/4 inches in diameter .

The only other straight trees were over 8 inches and so tall as to be problematic
in felling them . These are over 30 feet tall .
Until I get more experience I,ll stick to smaller trees .

I took the small tree down and lopped off the top as well . I then painted both ends and laid it flat in a sheltered open location .
 
I have a good specimen I've cut down, but right now it's just lying in the grass outside. I too am interested in how it should be seasoned for bow making. Not sure what kind of wood...cut down a few days ago.
 
Thanks for that link, coote. I've been interested in bundle bows ever since making miniature ones from bamboo skewers as a kid. They were amazingly effective, launching a bamboo arrow upwards of 100 yards, or going straight through soda cans and several layers of cardboard. We raised wild turkeys, so there was never a shortage of fletching, and I made steel broadheads for most of 'em. A bow made in this fashion seems a bit thick and bulky for its power, but that is more than offset by the fact they can be so much shorter than a self bow of similar power, and are so dang easy to make.
 
Vivi it is better if the wood is up off the ground . Especially damp ground . I have mine with shelter overhead and open on the sides . That way no rain gets on it and the wind circulation will help it dry . keep it well supported along its length and don,t debark it . Paint or wax the ends well as they can dry faster and split .
 
Thanks for the post, saved my future bow. I was gonna desap it, cut it and sand it. I'll go get it out of where I put it (Some woods by my house) and do as said. Spray paint good enough for the ends?
 
I have made bows from green wood as soon as two weeks after felling the tree. It doesn't matter how thick the initial bit of wood is if you rough the bow to shape first. I dried mine above my wood stove.

A green stick will still make a bow that works, but it can develop bad "string follow"... in other words it won't straighten up when you unstring it.

If you are going to rough out a bow from green wood, it is best not to bend the stave until it is dry.

I've been away for a couple of days.... sorry about the delay in replying.

The Paleoplanet guys will have some great advice for you concerning your local timber.

I am looking forward to hearing how you guys got on.

Catch you later.... Coote.
 
Most traditional boyers I have seen hang their stock to dry it. Also, if I were going to make a traditional bow, I believe I would buy a stave from a boyer. It would be preselected for grain, curve, and dried properly. I've read that these guys cull a large percentage of the staves they season, so buying a grade 1 stave for your bow, and a reject for practice might be a good idea. I've made them from both green wood, field seasoned wood, and shelter seasoned wood, and all can be done, but when you add up the time you spend tillering and finishing, the time is better spent with a good grade seasoned stave. Yes, the green wood staves can work, but two of the three I did broke, one while working it, the other on the third shot. I wouldn't even start with an unknown wood. I mean, it might be good to use it practicing your carving and shaping, but there are too many usable known woods available, and several excellent woods such as hickory, white ash, osage (very hard wood and takes a lot of work!), black locust, etc. Visit the Primitive Archery sites for suggestions, instructions and some good reading!

Codger :thumbup:
 
Codger I have some excellent well seasoned ash lumber staves cut out and hanging in my hallway . One is halfway towards a bow . I just wanted to work on a tree stave bow while out at the range . I want to try the hatchet technique . You are right in that I would have a greater chance for success . I am more trying to get a little experience with a laid back way of doing it , Shoot a few chop a little . It gives the local compound shooters something to laugh about too . L:O:L

Vivi , a good heavy coating of spray paint is pretty good . Get into any crevasses in the end of the wood and under the bark at the cut ends a bit if you can .
 
Kevin the grey said:
....It gives the local compound shooters something to laugh about too .

Return kindness with kindness. Ask them when they will be good enough to take off their training wheels! :D

A hot wax dip works best for me (I buy a big used tabletop christmas candle at yard sales!), but I want to try dipping the butts in plasticote sometime. I have lost a stave or two to checking when the paint or wax failed.
 
The following is posted on Paleo Planet by Tim Baker - renowned bowyer and one of the authors of the Traditional Bowyer's Bible series:

If anyone is just learning, here's a short how-to piece that might be of help.YOUR FIRST WOODEN BOWFollowing is a 50lb design that is easy and quick to make, is as fast and accurate as any, and costs about five-dollars. This bow is about the same length you are tall. Its drawn side-view shape is that of an English-tillered bow. This design's grip is part of the working bow itself, making the bow easy to layout and easy to make. It stores more energy than shorter bows, draws with less stack, and is more stable/accurate. It may have a larger number of good features than any other design. These instructions call for a lumberyard hardwood stave. With such a stave it's possible to read this in the morning and be shooting your bow the same afternoon. Not likely, but possible. If you don't have access to such lumber do this: Cut a straight hardwood tree, split it down to four-inch wide wedges, take the bark off without damaging the wood surface. With saw or hatchet reduce the stave to 72" for a 28" draw. Add or subtract two inches for each one-inch change in draw length. Narrow the stave to two inches from end to end, 1" thick at the grip, 3/4" midlimb, and 5/8" at the nocks. Set it horizontally in the warmest, driest part of you house and wait a month. Let air move freely over all its surfaces, back and belly. Selecting a lumber stave: Use any of the heavier hardwoods. Red or white oak, rock maple, hickory, pecan, mulberry, etc. Select a board on whose face its ring lines are almost perfectly straight, with no meanders, kinks, islands or bowlegs, and which are at least almost perfectly parallel to the board. Don't bother about ring lines on the side of the board; they can be misleading; they don't need to run straight. You will likely have to look through 50 boards or more. Tools: A hatchet and a rasp are all that's absolutely needed. But a spokeshave and coarse and medium rasps make the work faster and easier. A block plane is helpful if used carefully. A bandsaw saves about two hours of roughing out. Front-view layout: With a sharp pencil and a straight-edge draw the bow 1 3/8" wide from midlimb to midlimb. From there draw a straight taper to 1/2" nocks. Reduce the stave to these dimensions. Don't stray past the line. Create smooth square sides. Smooth out the angle where the midlimb begins to taper. Side-view layout: Draw these lines on both sides of the stave: Let the center six-inches be 7/8" thick. Moving toward the nock, let the next two inches taper to 3/4" then to 9/16" at midlimb, then to 1/2" at the nocks. Let these thickness changes be smooth and gradual, with no angles. Reduce the stave to these dimensions. Don't stray past the line. Remove the wood from one side of the belly at a time, with the tool at a slight angle, such that when both sides are done a slight crown will have been created along the center of the belly. Then remove the crown. It's important to do it this way. Otherwise at some point you will dip below the opposie line. This method also averages out any errors of reduction. It's also easier. As you reduce down to the pencil lines frequently sight along the length of the limb from a low angle and make sure your work is smooth and uniform, with no dips or waves or dings. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BOWMAKING. This largely decides if your bow will break or not. If thickness taper is smooth and gradual it's difficult to break a bow. Narrow the belly side of the grip just enough to cause a nocked arrow to rest square against it. Do this on both sides. Round all corners of the grip. Cut nocks with a rattail rile or similar, then string the bow with a slack string. Set the center of the grip on one end of a 30" one-by-three board or similar, and place the string in a notch cut into that board, causing the bow to bend about five inches. Lean this rig against a wall then back up and inspect the curve of your new bow. The shape you are seeking is not part of a circle, but the shape of a satellite dish antenna--an almost flat, only slightly bending grip, then each portion bending slightly more than the last as you move from grip to nocks--Elliptical tiller. It would be good to draw this shape on paper and have it ready to refer to while tillering. If your bow does not take this shape, or if the limbs are not curving equally, make pencil marks on the belly where the limb is too stiff. Remove wood from these stiff areas, first on one side of the belly then the other--then remove the slight crown created. Do this with long sweeping strokes, creating no dips, waves or dings, frequently sighting along your work, as above. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BOWMAKING. When the curve finally suits you brace the bow about five-inches high and inspect it again. Mark any stiff portions and reduce them as above. When content with the curve draw the bow to half it's intended draw weight, measured by your best guess or a scale. Set the bow on the tillering stick at this length of draw and mark any stiff areas in the limbs and remove as above. Re-check the tiller, re-mark, remove wood, etc. until perfect curvature is reached. Now draw to full draw weight. If full weight is reached at, say, twelve-inches of draw you need to remove a medium amount of wood all along the bow's length. Do so by above methods, check for proper curve on you tillering stick, correct where needed. Again draw to full weight, now at possibly fifteen-inches of draw. From this point on remove only paper-thin amounts of wood at a time. Set the string in ever farther notches as draw length increases, but never farther than five inches short of intended draw lenght, and not even there for more than a few seconds. Continue this process until about one-inch short of intended draw length. Smooth all surfaces to your taste, slightly round all corners, and you're done. The bow will settle right into its design weight. Nock the arrow just above the center of the grip--search for the spot that yields the feel of balanced string pull during the draw. The arrow will fly more accurately with one limb or the other as the top limb, but this may change over the life of the bow. Please ask for details or clarification if needed. Tim Baker
 
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Doc
 
Like Codger says, it could be a good idea to get a good stave from a reliable source. You then have something to compare everything else to. However if you haven’t made a bow before, it would be a pity to ruin a relatively expensive stave because of the inevitable mistakes a beginner might make. Maybe keep the good stave for your second or third attempt.

We don’t have a history of native archery in my country, so there is no local ancient wisdom to draw on, an if I wanted to buy a stave of proven quality I might be forced to import one. I’ve had to experiment with the materials that are available. As a guide I have read about what makes a good bow wood and then I have endeavoured to find some. I recall reading that any seasoned wood with a density (specific gravity) greater than 0.45 is worth experimenting with. The denser the wood the heavier it is likely to feel, and the narrower a bow you can make from it.

Some woods are said to be highly unsuitable. These seem to be the very light and brittle ones. Some folks say that willow is useless and I would tend to agree, yet I understand that some American Indians managed to make bows from willow that served their purpose. Good on them…I suppose it was the best stuff they could find in their neighborhood. I believe that these bows were sometimes had the shape of the bow before they were strung… thus the only real stress they had to endure was when they were actually drawn to be shot.

The rule of thumb seems to be that if you have wood that may be of questionable quality, then you should make your bow wider and maybe longer to have more wood sharing the load. Of course the lightest, shortest bows are more likely to have the best efficiency and give the greatest arrow speed…. But if you don’t have wood that can take the strain you have to make a bow that doesn’t perform quite as well.

I have gotten a bit depressed when I have read about the marvellous performance of some bows on the internet. Arrows fly huge distances at amazing speeds. I understand that in some places there are rules that specify how far a bow has to shoot a hunting arrow if you are to use that bow to hunt large game legally. I think one specified distance was 120 yards. Well a lot of my bows would not shoot a heavy hunting arrow that far.

But as I have thought about the performance of my bows in the situation I am in, I have come to realize that I am doing allright. I have finally made bows that don’t break, and I have bagged game with them. I am learning about how to make bows, and I have discovered locally-growing woods that will make a workable hunting bow. That to me is what this primitive skills/survival business is all about…. Being able to make do with what you have at hand.

It adds a lot of pleasure to my journeys outdoors as I scan the surroundings for suitable straight saplings and shoots that might make decent bows and arrows.

Happy stave hunting….. Coote.
 
Thanks Coote . I think bows that shoot an arrow a certain distance use a fairly light arrow as a standard . It is also supposed to be that anything over ten grains per pound of draw weight does not add anything . You will just get a slow heavy arrow that doesn,t penetrate as well as an arrow better suited to a bow . That having been said a 6oo grain arrow which is suitable for a 60 pound bow is a nice heavy arrow . Coote you seem to have a good handle on what you are doing . Good on you as well .
 
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