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Mammoth or Mastadon????
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I am not a real expert here aboout Ivories but I thought that they were the same thing.
Either will work as far as I know.maybe someone else knows more than I do here.
To me Ivory is Ivory,when it is fossilized.
Just my 2 cents worth,
Bruce
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Either will work as far as I know.maybe someone else knows more than I do here.
To me Ivory is Ivory,when it is fossilized.
Just my 2 cents worth,
Bruce
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I've always wondered what was the difference between the behemoths. So, with the help of the internet...A brief look at Encarta reveals that the...
"Mastodon, common name for any of the extinct elephantlike mammals that constituted the family Mammutidae of the order Proboscidea ("long snouted"). The leaf-eating mastodons were widely distributed in the forests of the world from Oligocene to Pleistocene times. Their remains have been found in North America, Africa, Europe, and Asia, and are often remarkably well preserved. Like the modern elephant, the mastodon was very large, with thick, sturdy legs; a huge head; tusks; and a flexible, muscular trunk. Like the mammoth, the mastodon was covered with shaggy hair. The animals differed from elephants and mammoths, however, in having complete tuberculate teeth. Their upper tusks were long and curved backwards; they had transverse crests on their grinding teeth. Mammut americanum, almost the size of a modern Indian elephant, was common throughout what is now the United States; it did not become extinct until about 8000 years ago.
Mammoth, common name for several extinct species of the elephant family. Mammoths had long, curved tusks that reached a length of about 3 m (about 10.5 ft), and a prominent hump on the back. Those that lived in cold climates had a shaggy covering of long, thick hair. These animals moved northward as the glaciers of the Ice Age receded.
The first mammoths appeared in Africa during the early Pliocene Epoch, about 5 million years ago. The first North American mammoths migrated across the Bering Strait from Asia into Alaska during a period of low sea level about 2 million years ago. By the beginning of the Pleistocene Epoch, about 1.6 million years ago, mammoths inhabited North America, Europe, and Asia. Scientists believe that most mammoths had died out toward the end of the Pleistocene Epoch, about 11,000 years ago, although scientists have found the remains of dwarf mammoths that survived until around 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean.
The largest mammoths, such as the steppe mammoth (Mammuthus trogontherii), lived in Eurasian wooded and meadowlike habitats. Adult males stood about 5 m (about 16 ft) high at the shoulders, weighed up to 18 metric tons, and had tusks up to 5 m (16 ft) long. The woolly mammoth (Mammuthus primigenius), characterized by a thick hairy coat that helped it to adapt to its cold tundra environment, was plentiful in northern regions during the late Pleistocene Epoch. The woolly mammoth was about the size of the modern Asian elephant, about 3 m (10 ft) tall at the shoulders. The smallest known mammoth (Mammuthus lamarmorae) was less than 1.5 m (5 ft) tall and lived on the Mediterranean island of Sardinia during the late Pleistocene Epoch.
The first complete specimen of a frozen mammoth was unearthed near the Lena River in Siberia in 1806 by Russian botanist Mikhail Adams. Since then a number of mammoth specimens have been discovered in Siberia, Europe, and North America, including one of the largest species identified to date, the American mammoth (Mammuthus imperator), which reached a height of 4.3 m (14 ft)."
So boys & girls, to sum it up, the Mammoths were distinct, separate secies from the Mastodons. And no, I cannot tell the difference between the ivories.
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"Mastodon, common name for any of the extinct elephantlike mammals that constituted the family Mammutidae of the order Proboscidea ("long snouted"). The leaf-eating mastodons were widely distributed in the forests of the world from Oligocene to Pleistocene times. Their remains have been found in North America, Africa, Europe, and Asia, and are often remarkably well preserved. Like the modern elephant, the mastodon was very large, with thick, sturdy legs; a huge head; tusks; and a flexible, muscular trunk. Like the mammoth, the mastodon was covered with shaggy hair. The animals differed from elephants and mammoths, however, in having complete tuberculate teeth. Their upper tusks were long and curved backwards; they had transverse crests on their grinding teeth. Mammut americanum, almost the size of a modern Indian elephant, was common throughout what is now the United States; it did not become extinct until about 8000 years ago.
Mammoth, common name for several extinct species of the elephant family. Mammoths had long, curved tusks that reached a length of about 3 m (about 10.5 ft), and a prominent hump on the back. Those that lived in cold climates had a shaggy covering of long, thick hair. These animals moved northward as the glaciers of the Ice Age receded.
The first mammoths appeared in Africa during the early Pliocene Epoch, about 5 million years ago. The first North American mammoths migrated across the Bering Strait from Asia into Alaska during a period of low sea level about 2 million years ago. By the beginning of the Pleistocene Epoch, about 1.6 million years ago, mammoths inhabited North America, Europe, and Asia. Scientists believe that most mammoths had died out toward the end of the Pleistocene Epoch, about 11,000 years ago, although scientists have found the remains of dwarf mammoths that survived until around 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean.
The largest mammoths, such as the steppe mammoth (Mammuthus trogontherii), lived in Eurasian wooded and meadowlike habitats. Adult males stood about 5 m (about 16 ft) high at the shoulders, weighed up to 18 metric tons, and had tusks up to 5 m (16 ft) long. The woolly mammoth (Mammuthus primigenius), characterized by a thick hairy coat that helped it to adapt to its cold tundra environment, was plentiful in northern regions during the late Pleistocene Epoch. The woolly mammoth was about the size of the modern Asian elephant, about 3 m (10 ft) tall at the shoulders. The smallest known mammoth (Mammuthus lamarmorae) was less than 1.5 m (5 ft) tall and lived on the Mediterranean island of Sardinia during the late Pleistocene Epoch.
The first complete specimen of a frozen mammoth was unearthed near the Lena River in Siberia in 1806 by Russian botanist Mikhail Adams. Since then a number of mammoth specimens have been discovered in Siberia, Europe, and North America, including one of the largest species identified to date, the American mammoth (Mammuthus imperator), which reached a height of 4.3 m (14 ft)."
So boys & girls, to sum it up, the Mammoths were distinct, separate secies from the Mastodons. And no, I cannot tell the difference between the ivories.
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Glen AKA Centaur
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- J. R. R. Tolkein
[This message has been edited by Centaur (edited 06-26-2001).]
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COOL!!!!!
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Bruce Evans Handcrafted Knives
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