Manix 2 and Paramilitary 2 deployment questin

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I'm in Australia and am keen on adding these 2 pieces to my modest spydey collection. I'm concerned if these knives qualify as "flick knives" by local law which reads as a knife that is deployable by means of pressing a button or spring and centrifugal force- ie a wrist rotation/flick. Technologically pivot bushing system is great, love it on my 2 sebs but those come tight and are generally deliberate deployments. How flickable are the Manix 2 and Para 2 nib? I hate these legal grey areas :(
 
Ik in NYC you have to be carefull with them because they qualify as gravity knives but dunno about australia.
 
technically under that bullcrap flick/gravity "law" YES they would be flick-able

sorry man!
 
If you can carry a Sebenza, you should be able to carry those two, I don't see any significant difference there. Especially the Manix, since it has spring pressure in the lock.
 
Technically, you could simply tighten the pivot on the Manix 2 until it no longer flicks open. Not sure what to do about the Para 2 though(maybe lots of blue loctite?). I'm pretty sure most sellers would be willing to do that for you.

I personally feel the legal definition of "gravity" knives is a flawed one because of the ability to "play" in and out of that definition simply by tightening or loosening the pivot screw on most knives.
 
Damn_Animal said:
Ik in NYC you have to be carefull with them because they qualify as gravity knives but dunno about australia.
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Dude, New York does not equal Australia. Chief differences are that New York has no redeeming qualities other than good pizza, and Australia is a cool place to live. That New York interpretation of "gravity knife" is specious at best, and the fact that it is being upheld by courts and LEOs is a shame.

But YES you can tighten the pivot down on both knives enough to make the blade reist any sort of flicking and then readjust to your liking once the customs goons are done wasting taxpayer money.

-nate
 
robot37 said:
Dude, New York does not equal Australia. Chief differences are that New York has no redeeming qualities other than good pizza, and Australia is a cool place to live. That New York interpretation of "gravity knife" is specious at best, and the fact that it is being upheld by courts and LEOs is a shame.

But YES you can tighten the pivot down on both knives enough to make the blade reist any sort of flicking and then readjust to your liking once the customs goons are done wasting taxpayer money.

-nate
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The para pivot uses a bushing system and tightening the pivot all the way down will not have much effect.
 
Yes they will be determined as flick knives.

There is also another law they like to use which is holding the knife in one hand and opening it in the same hand. Crazy I know because you can do it with virtually all knives but that's just how the country has gotten.

If you can buy it within Australia, regardless to price, it's the only real way you can be sure to get it.
 
Thanks for the replies. I've seen it on sale via some Australian dealers, the markup is not friendly and I'm after the sprints like the CTS XHP Manix 2 and Para 2. Already have a S30V Para 1 which I like much but looking for something different steel wise to make my intended Para 2 different. Still don't know... Considering the normal ones are sold here i'm guessing it's legal?
 
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