Manufacturers names and legal hassles

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Sometimes I wonder what would happen if I got into a bad situation, needed my AFCK to end the assault, and had the knife confiscated as evidence. To proove "His" point,would the oposing lawyer make a big deal out of the "Advanced Folding Combat Knife" moniker?
Does (Can?)buying a "Tactical" folder be looked upon as premeditation?
Reading Marc "Animals" thread and the discussion of wounds caused by defanging, looking to the justice system as defensive in nature, it appears to me that truth and justice might not prevail due to sheer ignorance on the part of our "System"
 
yup..exactly..what you carry, how you carry it and of course how its seen by the common man can greatly effect how one tries to defend ones self in a court room..
Will a prosecuter try to use the name of a knife and its intent against you..WHY NOT?
You're thinking correctly...you know the old plan ahead, don't run out of paper routine? of course..well you definately got the idea.
Using the PREDATOR 5 Ultimate Fighting Knife will come back to haunt you...maybe even the knifes description..
With the AFCK..and AFCK Mini, well its ( They've) been in enough articles that show its a great UTILITY knife contary to its names intent..
plus they 're both legal size carry...
You might need to expand on the connotation of the word Combat Knife to show it means all-around camp knife ..that in "COMBAT" ie war. a knife is a survival utilitarian tool and thatthis meets THOSE type of meanings,LOL..
of course I doubt that it will come to haunt you but who knows...
hmmm maybe you don't Know what AFCK means???

( I mean that sarcastically! pretend you don't know..LOL!)


[This message has been edited by BRAM (edited 08-11-2000).]
 
I think it is a bunch of worry about nothing, or, maybe I have to rename my Glock and Sig Sauer to more "tame" names like "Tactical Tupperware" and "Swiss Mocha."
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"When they make everything illegal, nothing matters anymore."
 
Gee Don, I decided to go to the law firm BEFORE I responded..and lo and behold this was the answer.."Of course we'd use it against someone.." so like it or not.gut em or not..your intent, the intent the assholian prosecutor chooses to pursue can come to haunt someone..you think its silly? you think its no problem..so don't worry..carry whatever you want..LOL..
I know you'll do whatever...
Gee it just happened to someone I know as well..
OOPs thats right it will NEVER happen...

 
Plus YOUR renaming something has nothing to do with how its advertised nor with the image SOLD by its name..that's well beyond you..but if you choose to name your firearms..well have a great time...
Let me know if they have birthdays as well..LOL.
 
This is the reason while I have been veeeeeeerrrry hesitant to carry a card which states I am a member in good standing of the Knife Fighters Guild, or other like sounding org... in my wallet(maybe just lock it away in a safe.... and tell no one!!!). No offense intended(really), but I just shutter to think what a prosecuting attorney woud do with that knowledge.... if god forbid I ever had to use a blade in self-defense.

~Kev

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But on a brighter note, I can think of at least one way of turning this around.

Say you're carrying an expensive piece...a handground or pre-production in the $200 price range or more.

If you "intended to get into trouble", why would you pack something so valuable? You fit more of a "collector/connoisseur" profile who happened to be packing "good stuff" when trouble found you?

This is even more obvious when the piece is serialized, and everybody on BF knows (or can find via search engine) your serial number!

Does this make any sense at all? If so, I'm in GOOD shape
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. Both my carry pieces are SN1
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Jim
 
I was being facetious, but now that you bring it up...it would be funny if it were not sick, disgusting and true.

Perhaps I should only tote "Delicas" and "Crickets" for their names are benign? I don't know...I do not know, however, I do know this...part of the reason we have these problems is because of the aforementioned group of folks you brought up, Lawyers. Now, are they all bad? Certainly not. I do maintain, however, that a Lawyer that would represent a crackhead with a rap sheet that would run the toner dry in your average printer...printing it...against you, me or any other law-abiding Citizen because he got injured, maimed, or killed...is a piece of sh*t. Worse than an ambulance chaser.

Damn near every Politician making oppressive laws against self-defense is a practicing Attorney. Not all of them, I said, "damn near."

Self-defense is a legal act in most places, a "duty to retreat" in some places, and "no duty to retreat" in others, like your home State of Florida.

I'm not the enemy.

If it is a "justifiable act of self-defense," the question of what you utilized to defend yourself should never enter the discussion, alas, sadly, it does on a regular basis, thus proving the system is a fecal sandwich...

People who carry steel are already dry-banged from the start anyway and I doubt very seriously if there is any way to change that. As Andy Stanford said once, "Bad guys use knives, good guys use guns..." I'm paraphrasing, but all can get the idea of where I am coming from. It is almost a lost cause...

Yet, we are here...we are packing steel and all sorts of little goodies and doo-dads to make sure we go home to Momma...

You must admit the madness that in your home State of Florida, you can get a CCW, carry 2 .45 Caliber, Semi-Automatic Handguns, but yet if you pack a knife that is referred to as an, "Advanced Folding Combat Knife," and you legally defend yourself with it, you could be sizzling in "Old Sparky" at Raiford.

On one level, it is pretty silly, isn't it Bram?

Look at Texas law, you can carry a 5.5 inch folder or fixed blade as long as it does not have the dreaded double edge, and it is not an Automatic or a BaliSong...yet you can pack 3 pistolas however you choose...

When I come on and make light of things, I'm not pissing in your Cheerios...I'm trying to bring an ounce of reality to the situation in an entirely different way then you yourself are Bram.

The reality is, you get in a jam, you call a Lawyer...the other one coming after you is a Lawyer...feeding a Lion in the hopes you will not be thrown to the Tiger is not my idea of fair, "American," or Justice.
 
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