Mark of The Beast

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I have resentlly been in the market for a chinese folder I call one of the places I buy from www.skylandscutlery.com and they had one left, for 118.00. I was getting out the plastic when the guy said there was a funny thing about this knife. Apparently it was the six hundred and sixty-sixth blade made. Because 666 was printed right there on the blade. Call me crazy but I ordered from somewhere else and now I waiting cause they were back ordered.
What do you think would have bought the knife with the mark of the beast on it or is that just asking for it?

Knife

 
I can't say I believe in things like that being bad luck, but if you felt uncomfortable about buying it, them I think you made the right decision. The mind is a powerful thing and when you think something is bad luck your mind can make it so. This seems to have bothered you, so IMO you did the right thing.

Keith.
 
I am the exact opposite. If the raffle ticket has #13, or 666, I buy that one to prove everybody wrong. But then again, I haven't ever won either, so maybe there is something to it. Hey, Knife11, e-mail me and let me know which exact one it was, and who you talked to. I would be interested in it just because of the 666. rlb@mnic.net

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"Some days you're the dog, and some days you're the hydrant"
 
Would you feel better if it were #668, the neighbor of the beast?
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Marcus
 
I just would've bought the knife.

Firebat

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Name's Ash......Housewares.
 
Could someone please explain where the number 666 came from in the first place?.
Please.

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" -Hari Seldon, Foundation, -Aasimov
 
I believe that 666 is the passage in the Bible where the Devil is mentioned in some context. I don't think I would have bought the knife either. I'm not overly superstitious, but I've been on the recieving end of weird twists of fate often enough that I don't push my luck.
 
Oboy...
This is indeed how superstitions start, make no mistake about it. Everything you read here will be "out-of-context" cuz it's a LONG passage, but this snippet will have to do. Don't any of you OWN a Bible? It'll keep you from cultic shenanigans, if you read it!
Here's the quote, comments pertinent to this discussion follow. I start with the "Sword part", cuz, well, i want to... Revelation 13:14b-18:
"...an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Point 1- the mark of the beast is on the hand or forehead, not on "yo' knife!"
Point 2- the beast controls the free market; so you can't sell anything without his approval, his mark. Knives are great, but it's hard to control everyone with just a knife...
Point 3- "the number of the beast ... it is the number of a man." NOT a knife...
For all you know, this could be the knife {sword includes knife in Scripture} that puts that head-wound in the Tyrant, & because he recovers, he "adopts" the number as "his own" just for kicks...!
My advice: FACE your Fears, BUY the Knife; if you don't like it, send it to Mick Strider; if anyone could take out a bad guy with it, it'd be him...!
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{Always cheering for ya' Mick...}
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You might get a real Strider out of the deal, & he'd get one heckuva adventure!
For the record, Thousands of items are numbered in society; i've run across 666 on things at least a hundred verifiable times.
No worries. "Pastor" Clif, happy to help.
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Clif :)
"Percival... I never knew how empty was my soul until it was filled."
Arthur the King upon sipping from the Grail.
 
The definition of the number 666 as "the mark of the beast" comes from Revelation 13:11-18, and especially 13:18 which reads (NIV) "... if anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."

However, when reading Revelation, one must keep in mind that it is written in symbols. One must be careful not to read litteral meaning into those symbols.

Recently, we've heard charges that a certain FBI agent was actually a Russian spy. One detail mentioned in some of the stories was his supposed use of a "signal site." Supposedly, when he placed secret information in a drop site for his Russian friends to pick up, he would signal that fact to them by making a chalk mark on a certain utility pole. To the average person walking past this pole, it would look like a simple chalk mark drawing no suspicion at all. But, to the Russian operatives looking for it, it had special meaning.

If one of these Russian agents saw a chalk mark on a different pole, he wouldn't pay any attention to it. It was only a mark on that one specific pole that they were looking for. And if the Russian agents saw, say, a yard sale flyer on that pole, they would pay no attention to it either. They were only looking for chalk marks.

My point is that symbols have meanings in certain contexts.

This number, 666, has meaning only when used in certain contexts, only when it's put onto certain poles. If you put it onto another pole, it's not important. If you use it as a serial number for a knife, it is not important because knives are not where we are supposed to look for that symbol as "the mark of the beast." When you 666 somewhere else, such as the tang of a knife, it's like a chalk mark on a different pole -- right signal, wrong pole and, therefore, meaningless.

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Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com

[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 02-25-2001).]
 
OK, we all know that 666 is the Number of the Beast. But did you know that:
 $665.95 - Retail price of the Beast
 $699.25 - Price of the Beast plus 5% sales tax
 $769.95 - Price of the Beast with all accessories and replacement soul
 $656.66 - Walmart price of the Beast
 6, uh... what was that number again? - Number of the Blonde Beast
 00666 - Zip code of the Beast
 1-900-666-0666 - Live Beasts! One-on-one pacts! Call Now! Only $6.66/minute.
Over 18 only please
 Route 666 - Highway of the Beast
 666 F - Oven temperature for roast Beast
 666k - Retirement plan of the Beast
 6.66 % - 5 year CD interest rate at First Beast National Bank, $666 minimum deposit
 i66686 - CPU of the Beast
 666i - BMW of the Beast
 DSM-666 - Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the Beast
 668 - Next-door neighbor of the Beast
 
Esav; i love it! When can i come over & eat roast beast with you!? My oven doesn't go that high...
{i'm still gut-laughin' at your post...!}
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Thanks for the Bible link; good references all-around that everybody should have: {Bartleby.}
Oh, and there's 66 books in the Bible; & 66 chapters in Isaiah (1st one in the prophets section...} God isn't superstitious: let us walk in His image.
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Clif :)
"Percival... I never knew how empty was my soul until it was filled."
Arthur the King upon sipping from the Grail.
 
Glad you liked it.

BTW, I remember from years ago, the "beast" was supposed to have been Nero. You see, the ancient Greeks and Hebrews didn't use any kind of numerals to write down numbers, they used regular letters of the alphaet, with each letter having a numerical value. The first nine letters were 1-9, the next nine were 10-90, and so on.

By taking a word or a name, and adding up the value of each letter, you come to the number of the man, and Neron Kaisar in the Greek alphabet was supposed to total 666.
 
Thanks Pastor Cliff, ya beat me to it.
Can't believe Para is letting this go on
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Wouldn't surprise me too much if we woke up one day to see that mark on the forehead of ol bill clinton, man of integrity that he is.

Gollnick, there are those of us who think the Bible is a literal book except where it is pointed out that it is figural, or in parables. Like when someone asks me what I think it meant when it says that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish. I think it means exactly what it says, he lived inside a very large fish or whale for those 3 days and was then released.(what, like that's too hard a miracle for God?). Anyway, not trying to start a debate here, just wanted to point out there is more than one view.

Dave

[This message has been edited by lifter4Him@aol.com (edited 02-25-2001).]
 
Other than the parables, where symbolism is expressly conferred, I agree with Lifter and I DO take the Bible literally.
 
I also believe in a very literal interpretation of scripture. But, the Book of Revelation is written in symbols and so to get its true meaning, you must properly interpret the symbols. How do we know how to properly interpret those symbols? Does God leave us to just sit around and try and think about what we think He meant? Of course not! The symbols all come from the Old Testament.

Consider, for example, Rev. 5:1-5 which talks about "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah."

I grew up in Pullman, Washington, home of Washington State University, the mighty Cougars! And there actually was a cougar, a live cougar, Butch, who was kept as a mascot for the university's athletic teams.

Perhaps this "lion" is the University of Judah's football mascot?

No. Go back and read Genesis 49:8,9. And then Matt. 1:2 and you'll see that "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah" is a symbol for Jesus.

If you read on in Rev. 5:6,7 John talks about "The lamb" and describes the lamb as having seven horns and seven eyes.

I used to fix x-ray equipment for the Veterinary hospital at WSU. They have an interresting sort of "museum" of curiosities that have been preserved. Sheep have a lot of problems with inbreeding (the whole breed lacks genetic diversity) and so birth defects, often quite profound, are not uncommon. They have preserved a lamb with three heads!

So, is the lamb in Revelation 5 just a terribly defective sheep? No. Horns are a symbol of power and strength and authority. See Deut. 33:17 and Number 23:22. Eyes are symbols of knowledge and wisdom. See Dan. 10:6 and Rev 1:14. Seven is a symbol for completeness, perfection, and for God. So, the lamb, who is Jesus, has prefect, complete, godly power, wisdom, knowlege, and strength. That thought is echoed in Rev. 5:12.

So, when we start into Revelation, we have in mind the fact that it is a book of symbols. We readily interpret the symbols of chapter five. We must be careful, though, not to let the wonderful, rich imagery of these symbols distract us from the fact that they are symbols. By the time we arrive at chapter 13, we should still be thinking symbols and still consulting our Old Testament for the meanings of those symbols.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
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