Marttiini vs. Mora - Mora Wins

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:thumbup:For about the same price, the laminated Mora is MUCH better - (I would recommend caution, though, because it needs a finger guard.) Cuts like a razor right out of the box.

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It isn't pretty, but, as far as the sharpness of the blade goes, its better than most I've seen. I'm not sure about its ability to stand up to heavy work, however. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

The Marrttinii is advertised as follows: "...9" overall. 4 1/4" 420 stainless straight hunter blade. Black textured Kraton handle with a cast metal finger guard. Black leather belt sheath. Made in Finland." This is not accurate in that the "cast metal finger guard" is a plastic POS.

The Marrttinii has a better sheath, however, since it is real leather. Because the blades have similar shapes, the Mora fits the Marrttinii sheath!

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Does anyone think the Marrttinii will match up when sharpened?
 
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Comparing a molded plastic handle Marttiini with a partial tang to a Mora with a full-length tang? Doesn't seem like a apples-to-apples contest.

Switch the traditional Mora with one of their plastic models for the comparison...

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Another unfair comparison:

I fondled some of the nicer Marttiini Knives at AG Russell's a few years ago. Although more expensive, the aesthetics and level of finish was far beyond anything I've seen from Mora. More similar to a Helle...
 
I wouldn't think the tang would have any impact on the knife's ability to cut cardboard - thats what I've based this initial impression on.
 
Comparing a molded plastic handle Marttiini with a partial tang to a Mora with a full-length tang? Doesn't seem like a apples-to-apples contest.

I wonder if it's even relevant. The only significant thing that seems to have been compared so far is out-of-box sharpness.
 
I wouldn't think the tang would have any impact on the knife's ability to cut cardboard - thats what I've based this initial impression on.
Correct. But it seemed from reading that this was only the initial installment in an ongoing review comparison.

Episode 2:
Does anyone think the Marrttinii will match up when sharpened?

Episode 3:
"Which handle splits first under pressure" :D
 
I agree that the Marttiini should be tested against the plastic handled Mora, rather than the traditional Mora.
 
i think it should be tested with the stainless version of mora


That's exactly what I was thinking , so.....I did it.
The knives were a Martinnii similar to the one in the OP
A Stainless partial tang Mora
A Carbon steel Mora #2
NONE of the blades had the factory edge. I've used them all for awhile & they have ALL been sharpened. But hey...who here doesn't touch up an edge from time to time???

Testing was done on a paper envelope , a USPS shipping box , Paracord , 1" tubular webbing & some pieces of Mullberry:

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As one would expect , the paper , cardboard , paracord & webbing were easily cut with all of the blades:

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Then came the splitting part of the test. The blades were batoned through each piece with no damage to any of the blades:

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Next I tried shaving some thin strips with each blade. Once again , no problem for ANY of them:

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No blade damage , no busted handles or tangs , all 3 kept a nice , sharp edge & no ill effects to any of the plastic parts of the blades. So...what in the world does all of this prove?

NOT MUCH... unless you can do it again with the same blades without cleaning , without sharpning & get the same results.
So that's what I did.
The second attempt gave the same results as the first , proving to me anyway , that all 3 blades are pretty equal at these kinds of cutting chores , which represent the majority of chores that I would use these types of blades for.

Hopefully this was of some interest to you folks.

For me , it was either play around with this or watch Regis & Kelly:rolleyes:

Cliff
 
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Marttiinis are prettier than Moras. But, the stainless steel Marttiinis are vastly inferior in performance to their stainless Mora equivalents. The Sandvik steels used on the stainless Moras are a lot better than the stuff used on Marttiinis.

The carbon steel Marttiinis are much, much better than their stainless steel knives. Not as tough as Moras, though, as they weren't intended to be tools beaten to death around a construction site.
 
I have the martinni big game hunter thats been rebranded by rapala. I don't really like it much for anything besides game dressing, it has a really nice grip.

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what u need is a microscope to look at the edge, with a picture taking attachment

so we can really see the difference
 
what u need is a microscope to look at the edge, with a picture taking attachment

so we can really see the difference


Nope...don't ned a microscope to know whether or not they still work.

I could probably find microscopic wear on most any blade that's been used , but I've never really felt the need to get that in depth with this kind of stuff.

If they still work for what I use them for they don't need any further examination.

Cliff
 
ok, but to notice the differences you do

your current conclusion is just that they are all ok, and could even be all the same, it just doesnt matter
 
ok, but to notice the differences you do

your current conclusion is just that they are all ok, and could even be all the same, it just doesnt matter


Well...alright , but before I rush out & buy a microscope with a photographic attachment to check out the edges on a couple of $15.00 knives , I'd like to be sure that I'd actually be gaining anything by knowing what the edges look like under a microscope.
Look...neither of those knives are the best knives ever made , but they both (Mora & Marttinni) have done what I need them to do.
Which one is better??? Heck if I know !

I doubt that many of us here use a microscope to check the edges on our knives.
It's usually sufficient to sharpen them & try them out on whatever you'll be cutting.
Were there microscopic chips in the blades ? Probably , but it didn't seem to affect the most important thing , which is the way they cut what you need to cut.

Really don't want to turn this into a big disagreement.
I don't think either of us is going to change our opinions because of what the other thinks.
That's OK by me.
Just trying to do a little non-scientific backyard comparison of the blades...That's all.
Cliff
 
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ok, but to notice the differences you do

your current conclusion is just that they are all ok, and could even be all the same, it just doesnt matter

One is perfectly able to carry out cutting tests without a microscope. Cliff Nieporte's comparison showed no significant differences. Micrographs may indeed show some, but they would appear to be mostly irrelevant in practical use.

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Marttiinis are prettier than Moras. But, the stainless steel Marttiinis are vastly inferior in performance to their stainless Mora equivalents. The Sandvik steels used on the stainless Moras are a lot better than the stuff used on Marttiinis.

I wonder about this, too. Vastly inferior in what way? Some varieties of 420 are very similar to 12c27, the stuff used on Moras, at least on paper. If there is a vast difference in performance of steel, it should be fairly easy to demonstrate.
 
I doubt that many of us here use a microscope to check the edges on our knives.
It's usually sufficient to sharpen them & try them out on whatever you'll be cutting.

Bull. Every great outdoorsman knows the value of knowing exactly what the edge of your knife looks like after use. Have you not read any of the books about the old mountain men and how they used their knives? Pick up a copy of Nessmuk's "Woodcraft and Camping" and check out the so called "Nessmuk Quatro" that he carried with him into the woods.

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