Mastadone Ivory Question??

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Hi Guys....

For you knife makers who use Mastadone Ivory...

Can it be used if it is fossilized/petrified ??

Probably not Eh!!

ttyle Eric.

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Yes it looks great when it is fossilized. It is more brittle and needs to be handled with care. Grind it without heating it and drill it slowly with new drill bits. Bruce
 
When it comes to the term "fossil", iut is used pretty loosely when it comes to Ivory. In real terms, fossilized means that all of the original organic content of the animal or plant has been replaced by stone. With "Fossil" mammoth or walrus, neither of which has really been around long enough to create actual fossils, The term fossil just means that it is pretty old.

Much of the time there has been some mineral impregnation into the ivory, which gives it color, as well as the acidity of the ground and so on. I can look it up but there is a name for the blue mineral that is commonly found in mammoth.

Also, I have been asked if there is a difference between Mammoth and Mastodon ivory, and from what I have seen, just looking at the tusks, you would not be able to tell. They both were in Alaska at about the same time, but the Mastodons occured in smaller numbers and were more woodlands orientated.

To date I have never seen any ivory that has actually turned to stone, I have seen some that looked as white as fresh elephant ivory, and some that has been decayed to the point of being black, and many different stages in between, along with all sorts of mineral colorations that have impregnated the ivory over the years.

Recently a piece of walrus that I sold, a small, sort of drab looking piece, held a surprise inside for the maker, a pattern of glorious vivid blue and white. The maker was Don Cowles, and I will try to get a pic to you guys.

Any other questions, just mail me.

YeK

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Hi Yek...

Did you have a look at the tusk on ebay ?

Is that a good deal for mammoth ivory and could that piece be usable, just by looking at it ???

Thanks...

This is Very interesting Indeed!!

ttyle Eric...

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Eric E. Noeldechen
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I'll second what Gerome said, but you can never really tell what is on the inside by a pic of the outside. I have never messed with any stegodon ivory either. Heck, I ain't ever heard of stegodon before.

If you got money to burn then go get that chunk, if anything it is a worthwhile conversation piece.

Yek
 
Hi Yek...

Yes thats what I figured as well.You never know whats inside,,and it looks like it's a pretty decent sized piece....

Thanks for all the help guys.. You have further enlightened me!!

ttyle Eric...

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Eric E. Noeldechen
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first...its not "masta done?" its mastadon ivory, and i totally agree with the guys that you should NEVER buy a piece that you cant handle unless you have a VERY reputable source that you can totally trust and send it back if you arent satisfied...lots of old ivory is cracked badly and has lots of waste, the wisest thing to do is look at it first. and even then you can be really disappointed when you cut it up...i like elephant the best because there is so little waste, but it is getting hard to find.

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I too second Darrel. If you have a question about ivory Mikey's the man to ask!
I've got some great ivory from him and trust his judgement.

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