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sfrigon1

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Hey all, I have an assortment of steels in my 7 spyderco folders. I just got an s110v manix which I'm very pleased with as far as toughness ,edge retention. I'm very intrigued by this new steel (MAXAMET) How much, if so ,better is it than the 110v ? Also are there any other steels as good as or better than the maxamet from spyderco ?
 
You should check out the long term edge testing in the thread below. Seems like an extremely good test of cutting performance and the edge stays razor sharp for, like, ever.
 
I'm wondering if the average guy with a sharpmaker can sharpen maxamet, or if it takes a better/higher end setup with diamond rods or something else...
 
Maxamet is better than s110v by a lot. the only thing better than maxamet is custom knives made with custom heat treatments (10v, s125v, etc).
This is just ONE resource, its not gospel, but a good resource non-the-less http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/...ed-on-edge-retention-cutting-5-8-rope.793481/
it doesnt seem like "alot" from Jim's tests, because its just below maxamet in the list... but 1120 to 1940 is a lot of slices. 10v is slightly above s110v. id choose maxamet or 10v over s110v because the s110v can have chipping and many people take issues sharpening it.


TRfromMT said:
I'm wondering if the average guy with a sharpmaker can sharpen maxamet, or if it takes a better/higher end setup with diamond rods or something else...
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it will strop and sharpen easily with ceramic and diamond stones. i have not tried SiC, waterstones or india stones.
 
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Mo2 said:
Maxamet is better than s110v by a lot. the only thing better than maxamet is custom knives made with custom heat treatments (10v, s125v, etc).
This is just ONE resource, its not gospel, but a good resource non-the-less http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/...ed-on-edge-retention-cutting-5-8-rope.793481/
it doesnt seem like "alot" from Jim's tests, because its just below maxamet in the list... but 1120 to 1940 is a lot of slices. 10v is slightly above s110v. id choose maxamet or 10v over s110v because the s110v can have chipping and many people take issues sharpening it.



it will strop and sharpen easily with ceramic and diamond stones. i have not tried SiC, waterstones or india stones.
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Interesting, how does delta 3v compare ? Or is it not in the same league?
 
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Interesting, how does delta 3v compare ? Or is it not in the same league?
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depends on the heat treat, here's some hard use tests http://gamesvideoreview.net/watch/IcovoTyGiRg
as for edge retention, that also depends on the heat treatment but its probably between s30v and s35vn, but again that may vary from different manufactures.

Dutch bushcraft knives did some rope cutting and other hard uses tests on 3V https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0k91MwJuS5VvNOJdbDhPYA/search?query=3V

here's Pete's test, if you look at his most recent list, it does slot in right between s30v and s35vn. also if you know anything about bark river and cliff stamp, he mentions they dont wet sand the blades, so they may loose a few points in the heat treat because of the extra heat. but i dont have any 3V so im not the best person to answer this question, hence why im posting all the info i have available.

On Jim's tests, he only did it with a big chris custom which is a custom knife (basically a way better than mass produced heat treatment). its in category 4 with the mirror polish finish tests.
Category 4

ZDP-189 (65)
CPM-154 (62)
ELMAX (60)
CTS-XHP (Military) (60+)
Super Blue (61.5)
CPM 3V (Big Chris)
 
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Jim's tests are not the end all, be all of knife steels, nor is anyone's tests. I think a lot folks see Jim's tests as a ranking of knife steels in order of best to worst via wear resistance. Jim's testing a very narrow window. I think, if he changed any of the parameters, even his cutting media, his line up could be in a very different order. Wear resistance isn't everything.
 
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Jim's tests are not the end all, be all of knife steels, nor is anyone's tests. I think a lot folks see Jim's tests as a ranking of knife steels in order of best to worst via wear resistance. Jim's testing a very narrow window. I think, if he changed any of the parameters, even his cutting media, his line up could be in a very different order. Wear resistance isn't everything.
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correct, there are lots of variables. Edge geometry, the angle its sharpened at, the grit its sharpened at, and what substance you are cutting. not to mention these guys are mostly just cutting rope, or cardboard or whatever.

all these tests are just a better understanding than nothing at all. they should be seen for what they are. for instance all of the testers show the data of what they did. what grit, what angle, and tried to standardize some of those things. its not to say that one is indefinably better than the other. and better, than what? lots of folks love 440c but its so low on the lists.

one thing i notice is that an optimal heat treatment can make a budget steel have better edge retention.
 
It's nice to see lists like this ,it definitely gives you a good idea where each steel comes in , thx I appreciate the info
 
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It's nice to see lists like this ,it definitely gives you a good idea where each steel comes in , thx I appreciate the info
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I agree. Ankerson's testing thread is chock full of good info.

Yet to try Maxamet. From what I've read around here about Maxamet - I can't really wrap my head around it. It sounds magical.:)
Hoping to get a Military in Maxamet but if I get too impatient may have to throw some funds toward the Para.
 
It's all about what you want. Here in Florida, I want rust proof. LC200N is my new hotness. I can sharpen it a little more often knowing simply put, its got good edge retention and it will never rust on my. I have had s110v rust on me. I wont carry carbon steel anymore. Hell I had vg 10 get spots on me. I am an avid fisherman, boater and just generally love the water. Different folks have different needs :)
 
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It's all about what you want. Here in Florida, I want rust proof. LC200N is my new hotness. I can sharpen it a little more often knowing simply put, its got good edge retention and it will never rust on my. I have had s110v rust on me. I wont carry carbon steel anymore. Hell I had vg 10 get spots on me. I am an avid fisherman, boater and just generally love the water. Different folks have different needs :)
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LC200N can rust too, but it does a much better job than other stainless. just needs enough time and the right conditions. but very good point.

Maxamet while great for fisherman tasks, would not be idea because of the corrosion that can happen to it.
 
Its a nitrogen steel. It's like h1 in that regard. At any rate is was in the salt all weekend and no rust. Surfer gringo leaves it on his kayak, no rust. Maximelt would pretty much disintegrate over time
 
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