Maximum Belt width for Sebenza pouch

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David Rock

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Can anybody tell me how narrow a belt must be in order to carry the Sebenza (large and small) pouches horizontally? I know this information has been posted before, but I was unable to find it using the search function both here and at Knifeforums.

Are the nylon pouches well made and secure?

Thank you.

David Rock

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Dunno about the small, but I carry the large horizontally in the nylon pouch. Belt I'm wearing right now is 1-3/8" wide, and it's pretty snug. My guess is it would fit tightly on a 1-1/2" leather belt, but not wider than that...

Glen
 
Gary:

I assume you are referring to the Large Sebenza? Actually it's the Small that I'm most curious about. The belt I'm wearing is a smidgen over 1-1/8" wide.

Thanks for your response. Thanks to you too, Storyville.

David Rock
 
The nylon sheath for the small will just fit onto a 1-1/8" belt. They currently don't offer a small leather model.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
Thank you, James. The ability to carry the knife horizontally is important to me, as it will allow me to carry it up front. Not only will this facilitate access with either hand, but I think it will also prevent loss. Assuming the snap fastens tightly, of course.

David Rock
 
David, yes I was refering to the large Sebenza. The snap is pretty secure on those, like the snap verses the velcro, velcro seems to loose it's velcroness if you know what I mean.
Never saw the one for the small, but I'd bet everything on StJames...
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G2
 
A quick correction; the maximum belt width for the Nylon Small Sebenza Sheath for vertical carry is 1-1/4". The snap closure is very secure.

But if you want a really nice leather one, then G2 is the man to talk to.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
I'm also interested in getting a leather sheath for my small sebenza. However, I would like to be able to keep the lanyard attached to the knife while using the sheath. Is there such a thing? Gary, do you make leather sheaths like this?
The only reason I don't carry the small sebenza more often is that I'm afraid of losing it or having it get really beat up while clipped in my pocket. If I could find a good leather sheath, I would feel much more at ease about using the small sebenza as a daily carry again.
thanks.


[This message has been edited by RT (edited 04 November 1999).]
 
Gary made a lovely vertical carry pouch with a snap for the Small I am giving my brother for his birthday. He is a "can do" type of guy.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
Thanks James,

RT, I've made a couple recently that are vertical carry with the lanyard end up, the one for StJames was that way with the exception he requested a flapover that snapped.

Paul Davidson carries his in a vertical pouch that I made and says it's working out well for him, you might want to email him and see how it is working?

I also make it in a horizontal style that works well with the Sebenza, large or small.

G2

[This message has been edited by Gary W. Graley (edited 04 November 1999).]
 
One comment regarding the horizontal carry of the nylon Sebenza sheath. The long strap, for vertical carry, is sewn to the small straps for horizontal carry. Thus, you cannot carry it over a belt loop.

I have a Cold Steel sheath for the medium Shinobu. (I suppose, this knife was one of the predecessors to the current voyager line. It does not have a clip.) On this sheath the vertical carry strap is sewn on seperately, from the horizontal carry straps. This is also true on the sheaths for the Boye Basic knives.

By having the vertical carry strap sewn on first and the shorter horizontal carry straps sewn on second and seperately, it makes carrying more flexible. It serves two purposes: 1. On those pants with a belt loop where you want to carry your knife, you can still use horizontal carry. 2. Further, if you do carry it over the belt loop, it prevents the sheath from moving very much.

I do not know how much this would add to the cost, or what other design concerns exist, but I prefer this seperate method of construction.

P.S. My Small Sebenza nylon sheath has the CR logo on it. It was born a few months earlier than the larger sheaths. The large nylon Sebenza sheaths that I have are generic, i.e., no logo. I am not sure if this is typical or whether there were any reasons for not marking the later sheaths.
 
Some shots of Gary's latest work for me, a small Sebenza sheath.
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opensheath.jpg


And side by side with one made by Gfeller Casemakers.
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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
Thanks for the intel.Cops wear 1 3/4", and 2 1/4" belts.This would not work.

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[This message has been edited by ghostsix (edited 09 November 1999).]
 
Thanks James,
Ghostsix, the one I made isn't lined so it's fairly low profile, there is a small piece of thin leather to cover the inside part of the snap so it doesn't scratch the knife, the belt loop should fit your belt, look at the middle pic and you'll see where the stitching is for the top of the belt strap, it continues down to the bottom of the sheath, so on a regular belt you can tilt the sheath if you want. By forming the sheath around the knife and stitching it down one side makes it a smaller overall profile, but it does make it handed, this one is meant to wear on your right hand side, if it were for the left I would have made the stitching travel down the other side. This one was made to fit the older style small Sebenza so it wasn't form fitted, just a looser fitting sheath.
Usually made to fit the knife less the clip.

G2

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[This message has been edited by Gary W. Graley (edited 09 November 1999).]
 
Same sheath, Small old profile Sebenza.
sheathside.jpg

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
Thanks for the pictures James. They were very inspiring. This past weekend, I contacted Gary and ordered one just like yours. It should be coming soon and I can't wait to get it.
 
My new sebenza sheath arrived in the mail today and let me tell you, it is truly a work of art. Gary Graley's service and workmanship are top notch. I ordered a sheath just like the one STJAMES got for his brother. The only difference is that it is designed for the new style small sebenza and Gary made some adjustments so I could keep the clip on. Anyone looking for a quality leather sheath should really give Gary a call. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
 
Thanks RT, glad to hear that it made the trip and the fit up was to your liking.
G2
 
Okay, kids, here's how the story ends:

I bought a large Sebenza with a nylon pouch. I like the pouch. It's not much to look at, but it carries the knife in a nice, flat package. Donald is right about the method of sewing on the straps. Because the long strap for vertical carry is sewed to the two shorter, horizontal carry straps, you can't position the pouch over a belt loop. The solution is not to sew the long strap to the other straps, but rather, sew the long one on first, and stitch it to the back of the pouch itself. By way of comparison, you may inspect the pouch made for the Benchmade AFO. It shouldn't add much, if anything, to the cost of the pouch, and it would add a bit more in terms of flexibility.
Incidentally, I like the fact that the nylon Sebenza pouch will fit (vertically) on a relatively wide belt--wider than what will work with the aforementioned Benchmade pouch. I'm a bagpiper, and the waistbelt worn with a kilt is about 2-1/4 inches wide. The Sebenza pouch rides very nicely on this belt. The flatness of the package makes it sit well, with no perceptible bulge, under my kilt jacket.

Great knife, by the way. It cuts pizza like nobody's business.

David Rock

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