Hey guys, lately I've been thinking about getting myself a very small FAK. I'm talking small enough to fit in my jeans' back pocket. Would the glove pouch do this? I would have a pair of nitrile gloves, a piece or two of gauze, some bandaids, some alcohol wipes, some tape (maybe wrapped around a plastic card), and some polysporin and a rescue cutter if there is room. Do you think the will all fit in the maxpedition glove pouch? If it does, would it still be small enough for pocket carry? Thanks in advance!
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Maxpedition glove pouch as small EDC FAK
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The thing I find difficult with FAKs is that you really need to have a good idea of what you are going to use it for. For urban areas if you might be helping a stranger, then gloves are critical. gloved hands hold a major injury nearly as well as anything, and you can probably have backup within a few minutes. beyond that everything is for your own comfort. I'm not a fan of back pockets for anything, but that's me.
Get non-stick gauze, and you can use it to add to the padding under bandaids, or use the bandaids to tape it down. Alcohol wipes are pointless, you shouldn't use them on wounds, and if you are doing surgery on yourself, use a lighter. Polisporin is up to you, but for a back pocket, I think the little packets won't stand up to the abuse.
First aid stuff is a great idea. How much or how little is going to depend a lot on where you are. Personally I think if you are going to back pocket carry, you won't get much more than a pair or two of gloves, and some bandaids and a couple thin non-stick gauze. But if you are balancing out a fat wallet in the other pocket, you can do even more.
The main components of my EDC dooom-bag first aid kit are:
gloves (2-3 pair)
steristrips
non-stick gauze 4-5 1.5x2 or 2x2.5
assorted bandaids
2 packets emergency dehydration salts (hydrolite at the moment)
2 roll gauze, (packing or compression for larger wounds)
assorted thick sterile gauze
rolled elastic bandage (sprains and snakebite)
This (apart from the gloves and rollers) fits in a small ALOk sak ends up about half an inch thick. That covers me for pretty much anything that I will reasonably run into, anything beyond that is an EMS call anyway. I carry a bunch of stuff just so I don't have to re-stock every time I pull out a bandaid.
I'm not trying to trash your plan, but I've watched people try to bandage up an injury with a very small FAK and half of it was useless since it was very injury specific, and the the other half was not enough to cover the wound. And the wound was such that the person could have probably walked it off anyway.
Get non-stick gauze, and you can use it to add to the padding under bandaids, or use the bandaids to tape it down. Alcohol wipes are pointless, you shouldn't use them on wounds, and if you are doing surgery on yourself, use a lighter. Polisporin is up to you, but for a back pocket, I think the little packets won't stand up to the abuse.
First aid stuff is a great idea. How much or how little is going to depend a lot on where you are. Personally I think if you are going to back pocket carry, you won't get much more than a pair or two of gloves, and some bandaids and a couple thin non-stick gauze. But if you are balancing out a fat wallet in the other pocket, you can do even more.
The main components of my EDC dooom-bag first aid kit are:
gloves (2-3 pair)
steristrips
non-stick gauze 4-5 1.5x2 or 2x2.5
assorted bandaids
2 packets emergency dehydration salts (hydrolite at the moment)
2 roll gauze, (packing or compression for larger wounds)
assorted thick sterile gauze
rolled elastic bandage (sprains and snakebite)
This (apart from the gloves and rollers) fits in a small ALOk sak ends up about half an inch thick. That covers me for pretty much anything that I will reasonably run into, anything beyond that is an EMS call anyway. I carry a bunch of stuff just so I don't have to re-stock every time I pull out a bandaid.
I'm not trying to trash your plan, but I've watched people try to bandage up an injury with a very small FAK and half of it was useless since it was very injury specific, and the the other half was not enough to cover the wound. And the wound was such that the person could have probably walked it off anyway.
I completely agree with what you're saying. I'm not trying to bring a huge kit with me. Just enough to help someone if they needed it until an ambulance came. So gloves, and the non-adherent gauze pads are obviously two of the things that would get used in an emergency. The bandaids and alcohol wipes would be for minor cuts or scrapes (I work as a camp counsellor in the summer). Tape, I feel, would also come in very handy. Polysporin and the safety cutter would be extras if they could reasonably fit. My wallet is about a half-inch thick, and I'm also currently carrying a Skyline with it. By no means am I trying to replace EMS with this. Just something to have. A camper at my camp got hit in the head with a lock a couple years ago, and along with the huge number of scrapes and cuts I see when we're away from a first aid kit has made me think that some stuff would be useful to always have. Is this reasonable or am I being excessive? And would any small pouch or container be suitable for this?
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I did the kids camp thing for several years. From activity instruction to standby medic. Main thing I learned was bandaids fix everything. anything bandaids don't fix needs to be documented and treated by a designated professional. Just keeps your personal liability to a minimum. Alcohol wipes suck for wounds for two reasons, one they hurt, two they slow the healing. just soap and water, or ever just water rinse is enough for minor stuff. cover it up, and send them off. I used ointment for the last bandaid at bedtime, helps the comfort level.
I would give my fellow staff a sandwich baggy with three things in it. bandaids, gloves, and big handful of non-sterile woven gauze. If its bleeding too much for a bandaid, pack the gauze in there and get help.
The thing is, once you hit a certain size and depth of wound, it needs careful cleaning, documentation, and covering. way more stuff than you have in your back pocket. But grabbing the big kit for a skinned knee doesn't make sense either right?
You might want to look into the maxped micro organizer, that way you can have a few things organized. the bandaids and stuff just go in a small freezer bag.
I would give my fellow staff a sandwich baggy with three things in it. bandaids, gloves, and big handful of non-sterile woven gauze. If its bleeding too much for a bandaid, pack the gauze in there and get help.
The thing is, once you hit a certain size and depth of wound, it needs careful cleaning, documentation, and covering. way more stuff than you have in your back pocket. But grabbing the big kit for a skinned knee doesn't make sense either right?
You might want to look into the maxped micro organizer, that way you can have a few things organized. the bandaids and stuff just go in a small freezer bag.
I just went through putting a fak together for the Motorcycle, I started out W/ the maxped Fr1
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/FR-1-Pouch-p404.htm
After about 5 min. I realized it was too small to pack anything useful.
I ended up getting a Kifaru Long Pocket W/ Dock & Lock straps.
http://store.kifaru.net/long-pockets-p59.aspx
I tossed the Maxped pouch in the Long Pocket and there is plenty of room to spare.
The Dock & Lock system also functions as compression straps. I get a very slim profile when it's mounted on the bike backrest.
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/FR-1-Pouch-p404.htm
After about 5 min. I realized it was too small to pack anything useful.
I ended up getting a Kifaru Long Pocket W/ Dock & Lock straps.
http://store.kifaru.net/long-pockets-p59.aspx
I tossed the Maxped pouch in the Long Pocket and there is plenty of room to spare.
The Dock & Lock system also functions as compression straps. I get a very slim profile when it's mounted on the bike backrest.