McMaster Carr 11 sec and W2

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DukeHarley

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I would like to try some W2 and a Hamon this next weekend and I have access to 5 gallons of McMaster Carr 11 second oil and was wondering if I can do a good hamon with this quench oil vs.ordering an waiting for Parks 50? I believe the Parks is slightly faster but I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make. I did some looking around and someone said Parks is probably considered a 8-9 second oil compaired to McMasters 11 sec oil. Im not sure how much of a difference that makes. Thats where I was hoping to get some opinions.

Jay
 
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Parks 50 is a 7 second oil. 130F Canola is considered around a 9 second oil. Strictly speaking for myself, I would use the canola with W2 over the MMC11, and have done so before acquiring the P50. You can get a decent hamon with canola. I don't know if the 11 second oil is fast enough to harden W2 or not. I would think the edge would harden, but not far up.
 
samuraistuart said:
Parks 50 is a 7 second oil. 130F Canola is considered around a 9 second oil. Strictly speaking for myself, I would use the canola with W2 over the MMC11, and have done so before acquiring the P50. You can get a decent hamon with canola. I don't know if the 11 second oil is fast enough to harden W2 or not. I would think the edge would harden, but not far up.
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^^^ What he said...
 
Ok then.....sounds like I wont need that 11 sec oil. Ill give the canola a try and probably check around and see if I can get some P50 ordered up. Thanks guys!!!!

One other thing. Should I still use the standard procedure of heating the canola to between 120-130 like i do with my 1084?

Jay
 
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Yes sir. 130F seems to be the sweet spot with many oils. If and when you buy some commercial quench oil, remember to check their recommendations.
 
I am not sure about the MacMaster Carr (I should find out as I have 5 gallons of it that I bought for deep harding steel) but the Houghton 11-13 second oil that Brownells also repackages as Tough Quench had an operating range of 120-180F but the sweet spot was 150F. Supposedly, you got 11 second performance at 150F and the 13 second number at 120 or 180F. the great thing about Parks #50 is that a few years ago, they actually "reduced" the temperature range and the low point is 70F. That means for someone like me in Florida, I would only have to heat it slightly a few weeks out of the year.
 
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