Me and my new Sebenza - very pic heavy -pt 1

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I'm the guy who was wondering about maybe a Sebenza, maybe a custom. I finally decided on the Sebenza after a lot of research. Since if you are paying over $400 for a knife paying $25 for overnight isn't any big deal, I now have it in my hands. Yesterday in Canada, today in California. Thank you to True North Knives for excellent service.

I was very tempted by the Snakewood inlay for the large classic. Beautiful. However, I had this image of suffering a scratch across the wood - which would really ruin my day. After all, wood is wood. And my Cocobolo Lone Wolf T2 is pretty slippery. So I went with the Micarta inlay. I'm glad I did.

I'm not going to write a "review" of a Sebenza, that's the last thing people need. I want to write about my first impressions instead, as a first timer. I also have what is pretty much a digital instamatic so the pics won't be that great. Certainly not what I had in mind! But they'll serve for the story...

First off, I have a lot of good factory knives, so I'm not new to fairly decent knives. Here's a shot of part of my collection.

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But I'm 43 now, my career is going very well, I have a couple grandkids, and I think I deserve to have some of the better things in life. Therefore, I wanted what my research had led me to anticipate was the "bombproof Lexus" of knives - along with other quality products.

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That's a Tumi bag that I love, and a Bulova - best watch I've ever had. On the list of "ten best quartz watches" and definitely worth the money.

Bottom line, you really can tell the difference with a quality product. A $40 watch will tell time... but the fit and finish just aren't there. Same with knives.

Here's a few more shots of the new knife:

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Ok, fit and finish. First, here's the lockup. It goes just over half way over:

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Take a look at the blade clearance compared to the sides of the handle:

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Here's two more shots of that blade clearance, the Sebenza followed by the Lone Wolf T2, a very good knife - but check out how much room they've left for the blade in the T2. As far as the Sebenza goes, we're talking amazing tolerances.

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What do I think about my new tiny Lexus? Overall I'm very happy. As I said, fit and finish are top notch. To say the blade centers perfectly when closed is an understatement, considering there's like a paperthin amount of clearance left for it on either side. There is absolutely no wiggle at all when open, not side to side or up and down. Rock solid. The handle ergonomics are excellence (I like a flat top to a handle) and the serrations on the thumb rest are perfect - grippy without being abrasive to the thumb. The back of the blade is gently rounded, and the blade itself has a very high hollow grind that came shaving sharp. The knife came with a note that for the price of shipping, they would regrind the edge to factory specs for free whenever I wanted. It also came with a signed, hand written "birth certificate" (info card) giving the date Jan 16, 2007, and stating "S30V 58-59 RC." An allen wrench was included that fits the screws, and another note suggesting (specifically) a Spyderco Sharpmaker or similar sharpener for the knife. I love the blade shape - that's a real needle point. The black canvas micarta is very grippy, it's a fairly open texture, compared to linen micarta, and gives an excellent traction but without any roughness like some g-10 can. And it's Micarta, meaning that after the end of the world, it will still be sitting there, looking pretty. At least in my experience. I'm glad I picked Micarta (thanks to those who gave good suggestions about that) - the knife will still look good 10 years from now. Oh, and I love the blade finish. I guess it's tumbled? It's like a grey sort of stone wash, not shiny. It's my favorite S30V finish. Overall, this thing is a rock solid user of a knife with the beauty that comes from being an excellent purpose built tool.

Being titanium, this thing is really, really light. You'll also notice I took off the clip and installed the clip plug that you can get (I got New Graham's very last one). The clip plug is a slightly different color, but I can live with that. I use home made leather pocket sheaths for my knives, they hold the knife upright and my keys next to it, so I don't need a clip. Besides, I work in the insurance industry. No one has visible knife clips.

Ok, any issues at all? Yes, but only one. Every knife I have, I can pretty much flick open. This one is really tight. I mean really tight. Thumb to thumb lug, puuush it open. If this was any other knife, I'd loosen the pivot a bit. But I think CRK knows what they're doing. I think this thing will smooth out over time, like a new Smith and Wesson .38 (if you don't lose patience and open it up and stone all the surfaces). So I'm just going to obsessively open and close it like crazy over the next few weeks and see how it goes. Anyone else have this experience?

Worth all the extra money? Time will tell. How will it hold up over time? Well, time will tell, but there's so many years of rabid Sebenza fans (like, what, 20 years?) that I'm not really worried. It's clear when you hold it that it's been made with extreme attention to the details - fit, finish, blade, grind, and so on. You're not going to be able to get better attention... what could they do more?

You can get a perfectly good knife for $200 - one that will probably last a lifetime. Then again, my wife's Saturn Aura is a very good car, nothing wrong with it... but she'd still prefer an Acura. And there lies the mystique of the Sebenza. I feel like I have a super high quality product made with top materials and extreme attention and very tight tolerances, and a company that will stand behind their product all the way.

Before I got the Sebbie (I can call it that now... I'm in the cult... dues are in the mail) I was always wondering about how big it was compared to other knives. So for folks like me, here's some comparison shots with well known knives:

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I have one knife in my collection that seems like a low cost version of a Sebenza, and that's the Camillus Dominator. Here's some shots:

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If you want something like a Sebenza, but frankly, not quite as good (blade's real good though) you could try the Dominator. But I'll finish this essay with a shot of the blade centering of the assisted action Dominator, and I think it says everything about comparing knives:

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But with the Seb, to open it the motion is more up than out. That may make the knife easier to open. Yes it gets smoother with time but it won't flick open. The large micarta is my favorite. Enjoy it, it's a really nice knife.:thumbup:
 
Congratulations. Glad to see that you are happy with your Micarta Sebbie!:thumbup:

Kind regards,

Jos
 
lightly smooth the inside of the scales ( where the washers rest ) with some 600 ( I do it on a surface plate ) , and polish the washers with some flitz and a soft cloth...apply a little bit of your favorite grease , and it will flick open like glass. I have done that to every Seb I have owned ( except the one I sold today ).

Sounds like you are very happy with your choice. Nice collection and very nice picts as well. I think it will last you a long time. :)
 
But with the Seb, to open it the motion is more up than out. That may make the knife easier to open. Yes it gets smoother with time but it won't flick open. The large micarta is my favorite. Enjoy it, it's a really nice knife.:thumbup:

My Skirmish is a Ti framlock and and very solid when open... but it opens so much easier. I guess I'm comparing... I don't want to mess up my new knife, but I am after a smoother opening action. I'll keep with the break in period for some time before I attempt any screw loosening... I've heard it can make a world of difference. After all, the whole point of this thing is tight tolerances.

Up rather than out does make a difference! Who would'a thunk it? Thanks!
 
Congrats on a great knife! I got my first Sebenza last year and have since gotten a small one as well for EDC. I always marvel at the quality and build of these great tools.
 
I used to have a small normal sebenza and also had the difficult to open issue. I even made a thread about it and people said it's normal and just need break in time. Well after a couple days I got frustrated and returned it because it was seriously pissing me off that it was so hard to open.

A month or two later I learned about the new Sebenza 21 being released and I had a change of heart and ordered the large 21. I just got it on Monday and it has super smooth opening. No break in necessary it opens very easily. You can't flick it open but these aren't designed to do that but the main thing is that my large 21 has 0 problems. I think my first small sebenza was defective. No oiling helped I think the lock bar was just too tight.
 
I got my first Sebenzas when I was in my Tuff-Cloth phase. Took them apart, rubbed every working surface including the washers with Tuff-Cloth -- smooth action. Loosened it up nicely.
 
Stuff opening is very common, there have been many threads about it in the CRK forum.

Here's one for example:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568494

They will work in over time,, but it you are in a hurry:

- Check that when opening you are not putting extra pressure on the lock bar.

- CRK ships with way too tight pocket clips IMO. observe opening without pocket clip. I usually bend mine out a little.

- Factory lube is usually stciky and dirty, break it down, clean and relube.

- If you feel like it once apart and clean you can fltiz polish the washers. I also do the washer sides of the knife and the pivot bushing as well.
 
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Congrats on the new Sebbie!! I am very happy that you like it. That was a great write up. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do that.


Yeah, my small 21 opens much smoother than my other 2 Sebbies. Not that they are hard to open.
 
Here I sit, waiting for my recently ordered large Sebbie 21 with Micarta inlays, my first Sebbie. Enjoyed seeing the small Classic version with Micarta. I started off thinking of a small, too, but since I'm retired and don't have an office to go in to, live in Levi's, and spend half my time in the woods or working in my three acre yard, I succumbed to my wish for a large. Thanks for the writeup and the photos.
 
i didnt read everyone replies, but from the diffuclty of opening as you described it, and since it did pass the border, they might have over tightened the pivot screw? i know new graham does that when shipping to canada to get by customs...just a suggestion:D
 
Nice "first impressions" write up. :thumbup:
And a really nice knife too!

And the rest of your collection aint too shabby either. ;)
 
Dave's right you wouldn't want to loosen the pivot. The choices are, be patient until it breaks in, open it up and polish and relube the washers and see if that works or send it back to CRK. You might want to try running some warm water over the knife and rinse out the pivot area without taking the knife apart. This may save you the problem of reassembly. Even though it's easy to take apart and clean, the first few times you try it can be frustrating. The tolerances are so close that you have to reassemble that baby just exactly right or it just plain won't work. I think the best option is just to wait and let it break in. Believe me it will get real smooth with time so why stress about it. Run it under warm water and open and close it a few times, see if that helps.;):cool:
 
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