I went to a famous knife shop in Tenessee and was looking at the condor line when i recognized a familiar face _JOEZILLA....It is always nice meeting other bladeforum members when you least expect it.. I really respected the fact that he let the knives sell themselves rather than be pushy like most reps do...i also liked the fact that he truly loved knives and not just his brand...we talked about different knives and not once did he make a sale on his brand.... I ended up buying the condor varan and a couple of mora knives ( you have to try the new one with the thicker blade )...The smokey mountains were not safe during my weekend stay.