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Bruce Bump

Bruce Bump

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Oh No, Suddenly Im getting a couple orders for the "one shot knife" This knife is a model I have made for some of my special operations guys. These new orders are not military related. It is a G-10 copy of the Smith Infinity and cant be detected at the airports. I fear that my name may be in the news if I make them. They are really tightening up security by searching all bags and persons before entering airplanes. I think I will stop making non-metal knives. What are your thoughts on this subject?
 
I think that is very wise. All it takes is one nutbar and then there will be a knock on your door.
 
Bruce, I hate to see the fallout in lives of the innocent from acts of madness of a few.

However, if it were me, I wouldn't want my name associated with something designed to be undetectable and sold to the general public. I don't feel there is much mood for tolerance now.
 
I've enjoyed making G-10 knives in the past, but I don't think I'll be making any more. I have a feeling these will really be frowned on in the future.
 
Sitting here watching the National Prayer Service on television, I don't think there is any need for a weapon that is undetectable by
x-ray machines or metal detectors, it is to easy for such a weapon to be used for just illegal acts. If you stop and think about it, a knife is a very valuable tool, in many uses in every day life, and the people that need and use knives don't need to hide the fact that they have one on their person unless it is intended to be used in an illegal or hateful act. I am a #1 fan of the right to bare arms, and the right to protect ones self, but I'll do it with a gun or a knife made of U.S grade A steel. God Bless all Americans and Allies.

Bill
 
Bruce - good topic. I think it is wise for you to stop making these types of knives, just to save your butt from getting into potential big trouble.

As you probably are aware, there are numerous commercially manufactured non metallic knives on the market. These types of knives maybe placed under some sort of federal regulation(s) similar to that of what has happened to automatics, balisongs, and daggers. I would not be surprised to hear that they will force manufacturers to pull these off of the market completely.

I believe the knife industry is up for more federal regulations as a result of this tragedy. I sincerely hope to be proved wrong.
 
Bruce B.
If all you are worried about is "saving your butt',,, I say go ahead and make those types of knives,,,,
If you are worried they may be used for ANYTHING which may resemble Tuesdays events,,, don't make them. My father put twenty + years in service of our country and I fully support the right of Americans to bear arms and they will only get mine if i am dead,,,, but to think you had made something whose only reason for being is to thwart security is unconconscionable. my opinion....jm
 
I certainly hope you guys dont think less of me because I made a few (8) undetectable knives. There were 4 planes hyjacked by evil people with legal knives. I work at The Washington State Penitentery, The other day an inmate was stabbed 7 times in the heart with the sharpened end of a bucket bail. He lived thank God.

My G-10 knives went to people I know and military Navy Seals. Im not going to make them anymore.
 
I think some of you were a little hard on Bruce. He's a stand up guy and I'm sure had no intention of malitious behavior here.

To say that a knife like that is only made with the intent of wrong doing isn't necessarily true. Sometimes good people just want protection.

I agree that I wouldn't make them anymore. But I think it can also be looked at as sometimes the good guys want something to protect themselves from the bad guys.

Just another perspective.

Hey Bruce, I hope that new job is going well. For God's sake be careful and be safe!

Nick
 
Bruce,,,,
I certainly do not think little of you for making those knives for SF people. But to ever make them for unknowns,,,that would be lame. I am not against making ANYTHING,,, but the attitude of only being worried about possible repercussions and not the potential loss of life is what set me off. sorry,,,, jm
 
Bruce,

I apologize, if you feel I was coming down on you, that was not my intention. I just do not feel such a knife is necessary and that it is hard enough for our law enforcement agencies to keep weapons from getting into the areas that they screen with detectors for the purpose of keeping all safe. I don't believe there necessary no matter who makes them. I know you can kill with a sharp stick or even a rock and keeping weapons out of the hands of people intending to do bad things is impossible. But theres no reason to help these kind of people (Not intentionally) by producing something that is so hard to detect.
Nick, I'm not saying good people can't defend their selves, but if you keep undetectable weapon from entering a plane or whatever the good people won't have to carry weapons to protect their selves. Hey, I've got over 40 knives and 15 shotguns,rifles and hand guns within my reach right now, like I said before I totally believe in the right to bare arms, but there's a lot of arms that shouldn't be allowed to be produced.

Bill
 
Bruce,At this time I would have to turn down these orders myself.But you will have to do what you feel is right in your own mind.
Are these guys just scared and want protection if it is needed,and would they use them properly and not for something bad and illegal.
Bruce
 
Bruce you have to make your own decesion. I personally won't allow the terrorists to win. It isn't the weapon that commits the crime it is the evil man holding it. If you allow the evil to rule your world the evil has won.
 
Im not offended, just depressed about knowing it was knives they used to hyjack. We are all in this together the way I see it. I feel close to you guys and thats why I ask your opinions good or bad. We are all makers here. I for one have chose not to make them anymore. I wasnt just trying to save my butt. They are border-line illegal and should be regulated. My new job at the pen may have some influences on my views also. I wonder what my inmate crew would think of one of my bowies. Thats a chilling thought. They have to use plastic utensils to eat with.
 
Bruce,
I agree that it's probably not a good idea to make this type of knife right now. Although I'm a new maker, Ive made a few of these knives for friends who are runners and wanted a very lightweight carry knife.
I don't know if I'll make any more in the future, but I would never offer them for sale to strangers even without the events in the past week.

I personally don't think any laws should be passed regulating what type of knife I can make. I'm not willing to trade ANY liberty for the empty promise of increased security. I think if we're willing to that, they win....we lose.

I'd also like to take a moment to offer my thanks and gratitude to those brave souls on flight 93 (the one that crashed in Pennsylvania)who chose to go down fighting when they realized that the plane they were on would probably be used as a weapon. Those men are heroes. They won. If I ever find myself in a similar situation I hope I would be able to summon a fraction of their courage and determination. God bless them and their families.

Patrick
 
Bruce,
I know that you have a conscience but, the knives you made were for Special Forces and people that YOU know. My opinion is that if you are approached by Special Forces and others that qualify for such a knife you should produce it for them. I know this is a touchy subject and you are questioning your own actions....You did nothing wrong. Rest easy.

Best Regards,
Eric Shaw
 
Guess I'm in the minority here, I say make all ya want to! This enrages me. It's the same arguement over gun control. Disarm the honest citizen and you make the scum bag criminal more powerful. I guarentee you I'll never step foot on a plane without a couple nonmagnetic blades on me.
I wasn't aware that nonmagnetic knives had been made illegal. As far as liability goes, it's no different than making a hunter out of steel. It might end up in the wrong hand and be used criminaly.
 
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