Metallic bonded cbn cleaner?

[Romans322]

Hi everyone,
I have poltava premium metallic bonded cbn stones and I was wondering if anyone has a good recommendation as a lubricant/cleaner.

I have some "citrusafe BBQ grill cleaner" on hand, and I was wondering if it might be as useful as "krud kutter" that so many people recommend.
(I haven't tried either of the two, I'm just asking about "citrusafe" grill cleaner because I already have a bottle on hand).

I've used powder "barkeeper's friend" with water and a toothbrush to clean some plated diamond stones in the past, and I wasn't impressed with it at all. Then I saw a YouTube video of a man warn against using barkeeper's friend on any stones because of some chemical it contains that's harmful to the stones.
(Which suited me fine, as it was yet another reason to discontinue using that stinky stuff).

I've used my lansky stone cleaner eraser, and it doesn't work well on cleaning metallic cbn stones, neither does dawn soap with a toothbrush in running water, or mr clean magic eraser.

I have some gunnyshines, but it's too expensive to justify continued usage. Although I love the concept of cleaner/lubricant, so that's why I'm asking about the citrusafe BBQ cleaner.

Do you have any thoughts about it?

PS, my metallic bonded cbn stones (120, 400, & 1000 grit) haven't performed well on cheap China stainless steel blades. I have some good steel spyderco blades that I haven't used them on yet, but on cheap Chinese mystery steel, they seem to skate over the metal more than they bite. I worked on one blade recently for hours, even forming a burr and gently working both sides to refine the edge ...and it still wouldn't sharpen to my liking.

Alright, well that's my post.

Thank you for sharing some of your valuable time with me.
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and no glory to us whatsoever!

 

[vlodko_lviv]

I have already given you a youtube link on how to refresh or level the sibn or diamond stones. Turn on subtitles, select Russian, then go to subtitles again and select automatic translation into English.
In a nutshell, the video talks about the fact that during work or BEFORE starting work, the stones should be refreshed, that is, the abrasive should be exposed so that it works well. To do this, you need to make a 40% solution of iron chloride and immerse your stones in it. Every 5 minutes they need to be cleaned of plaque and re-immersed in the solution. The duration of the process is 30 minutes. After that, the stones should be immersed in a solution of baking soda for 10 minutes in order to stop the reaction that dissolves the metal bond. Next, the surface of the stones should be leveled with silicon carbide powder. The grit of the powder should not be greater than the grit of the stone. For leveling, you need to take a powder 2 times larger than the grit of the stone.
It is enough to wash the stones with the usual detergent used in the kitchen or in the bathroom.

 

[Grasshopperglock]

I've tried a bunch of methods. The best for me is 91% rubbing alcohol and a sanding belt eraser.

Ethanol is recommended. But I'm not wasting the vodka.


And if you use 50% rubbing alcohol as a stone lube. The stone will stay cleaner. I keep a small spray bottle filled with 50%. After a stone is used. It's sprayed and wiped off. For a deep cleaning, the 91% with the eraser pull a lot of trash out the stone along with the metal dust. Trash as in blade coating sticking to the stone.

But rubbing alcohol is key. Denatured alcohol is the second option.

 

[Romans322]

I've tried a bunch of methods. The best for me is 91% rubbing alcohol and a sanding belt eraser.

Ethanol is recommended. But I'm not wasting the vodka.


And if you use 50% rubbing alcohol as a stone lube. The stone will stay cleaner. I keep a small spray bottle filled with 50%. After a stone is used. It's sprayed and wiped off. For a deep cleaning, the 91% with the eraser pull a lot of trash out the stone along with the metal dust. Trash as in blade coating sticking to the stone.

But rubbing alcohol is key. Denatured alcohol is the second option.

That's very interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.
I didn't know that there's a difference between rubbing alcohol and denatured alcohol, but I hope to take notice of such labels when I'm shopping for alcohol.

I just now tried baking soda mixed with dawn & water, (applied with a toothbrush) and it seemed to do a fair job at cleaning the gray from stones,
and then I tried some comet with a toothbrush, (rinsing immediately and thoroughly) and that seemed to work a little better. (I'd say probably the best cleaner I've used so far).

If you (or anyone else) has any thoughts about comet let me know. (I know to rinse immediately and thoroughly to eliminate any chemical damage to the stones).

The citrusafe BBQ cleaner didn't do anything.
I guess it's formula is aimed dissolving only meat-based media.

Thank you for sharing some of your valuable time with me.
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and no glory to us whatsoever!

 

[Grasshopperglock]

Comet is an alkaline cleaner. Bar Keeper is acidic. Oxalic acid.

Cleaning the kitchen, especially stainless steel. Bar Keeper blows Comet away.

Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl. Denatured is Ethanol with an ingredient to make it taste bad.

Third option on alcohol. Is hand sanitizer. It's also Ethanol. But with a gelling agent. Same type of stuff to make it undrinkable.

Mix some Bar Keeper with hand sanitizer, scrub, and watch it clean.

 

[Romans322]

Comet is an alkaline cleaner. Bar Keeper is acidic. Oxalic acid.

Cleaning the kitchen, especially stainless steel. Bar Keeper blows Comet away.

Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl. Denatured is Ethanol with an ingredient to make it taste bad.

Third option on alcohol. Is hand sanitizer. It's also Ethanol. But with a gelling agent. Same type of stuff to make it undrinkable.

Mix some Bar Keeper with hand sanitizer, scrub, and watch it clean.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and no glory to us whatsoever!