Metals, cups and cooking question

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i am sure this has been covered a gazillion times but what metals (cups, nalgenes) can be used over open flame without a bad ending? (bad flavor, chems, etc). thinking more of cups that can be used for hot coffee, tea in the field.

i know aluminum and titanium and i know do not do any of this if the inside of the cup is covered with a plastic lining or what not. some tips, pics etc would be greatful
 
Anything made of plain old SS, Alu, or Ti should be fine. I do recommend that you avoid cooking in lead cookware. Check out Snowpeak for some good stuff. If you're cheap like me you can go for a SS GSI cup. Also if you're looking for a 1 piece drink container/boiling pot get a Guyot Nalgene bottle.


God bless,
Adam
 
i never cook out of my cups,i do own bout everything out there,the best is the msr ss pots these come in 4 sizes and start @ $15...
 
THE PUNISHER said:
i never cook out of my cups,i do own bout everything out there,the best is the msr ss pots these come in 4 sizes and start @ $15...
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i have those. i was thinking more of smaller packing for day hunting trips near the house. similar to the what our good member Guyot has set up. very small and lightweight. it will be used for hot liquids only more often than not

the MSR hiking pots are lightweight and i guess i could drink out of them. hmm
 
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jumpmonkey said:
Anything made of plain old SS, Alu, or Ti should be fine. I do recommend that you avoid cooking in lead cookware. Check out Snowpeak for some good stuff. If you're cheap like me you can go for a SS GSI cup. Also if you're looking for a 1 piece drink container/boiling pot get a Guyot Nalgene bottle.


God bless,
Adam
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they sell lead cookware?
 
I think he was joking based on the general "what kinds of metals" question you had. Jumpmonkey was monkeying with you. :)
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
I think he was joking based on the general "what kinds of metals" question you had. Jumpmonkey was monkeying with you. :)
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Codger_64 said:
A GSI Cascadian plastic drinking cup is very lightweight and costs about two bucks. Campmor, Moosejaw, REI, Dick's, Gander Mountain all carry them I believe. I like the plastic cup better than metal for hot drinks.

http://www.campmor.com/gsi-outdoors-cascadian-cup.shtml
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42 after i asked the question it hit me that he was being sarcastic. LOL.. long day and short brain

Codger. thank you sir for that post i will be looking into that.
 
I also have a cup very much like that GSI that came from a thrift store for a quarter. IIRC, it came originally with a thermos bottle when new. The GSI (polypropylene) may not last forever but....

The cup holds 12 ounces, but if you prefer the mug style, it is fifty cents more and holds 14 ounces.
 
Codger_64 said:
I also have a cup very much like that GSI that came from a thrift store for a quarter. IIRC, it came originally with a thermos bottle when new. The GSI (polypropylene) may not last forever but....

The cup holds 12 ounces, but if you prefer the mug style, it is fifty cents more and holds 14 ounces.
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i think 12 would be enough. thank you again sir. :thumbup: they are light enough where i can stack 2 together, use a pot from my MSR kit and my coleman hiker stove w/small tank.. sounds big but isnt bad.
 
I employ the Snow Peak Ti Trek 700 cup as a 1st rate replacement for my old GI stainless canteen cup. I run it over campfires, alcohol stoves, butane, gasoline, propane, whatever, with no issues. Same with all my other titanium, coated aluminum, SS and cast iron. Feel free to "lose" the heavy SS lid Snow Peak includes with it.

The only issue is: if you boil water, the metals don't really get above 212F, and your internal non-stick coatings are fine. BUT, if you bake with them, the temps can go sky high (4 or 5 hundred F), and maybe your coatings will vaporize/self-destruct. For baking, I only use plain uncoated: aluminum, SS or cast iron dutch ovens. I haven't got the nerve to bake in my coated Evernew Ti pot.

So, I'm saying buy Ti pots/cups with confidence, and cook over campfires. Your cookware shouldn't look perpetually pristine, anyways :) At least, none of mine does.

I'll never give up Ti cookware. My back wouldn't hear of it.
 
I use steel and titanium. I avoid aluminum because it's thought to be linked with alzheimers. Have no idea if it's true, and I think it prolly isn't, but better safe then sorry. Of course they'll prolly find out when I'm 60 that Titanium gives you cancer. :rolleyes:
 
hung-solo said:
thanks Erasmus. deff something to think about.
what are everyone's take on anodized metal pots to cook in?
like this (this will be more for truck camping)
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8223670&findingMethod=rr
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I have both the Optimus Terra Solo and an older version of the Terra Weekend HE cook set (mine isn't the HE version). Have had the Weekend for about 2 years now and got the Solo this last spring. Both have worked well for me. The weekend holds a 4oz fuel canister and Optimus Crux or Crux lite stove, and the Weekend holds an 8oz fuel canister and the stove. The Coleman fuel canister and Peak ! stove may fit nicely into the larger pot, just like the Optimus setup that I run.

My mom wants a new 72 hour kit for Christmas. I'm thinking of getting her that Coleman setup with a Peak 1 stove and 2 fuel canisters to go with it. For the money I think it's a good setup. :) Am not sure if one has to worry about scratching Anodized cookware with steel or titanium, so I use the Poly Lite My Fire Sporks with my cookware. Love having a full spoon on one side and a fork and butter knife on the other.
 
I use the Snow peak Trek 700 with Kleen canteen Stainless 27oz nested in it which all fits in a maxped small nalgene holder. Also a snow peak 900 pot with a giga power and large canister nested in it.

I've searched long and hard, watched video's and asked questions. I finally went with this set up and after using it about 10 times around the house and on 3 overnight camping trips I can honestly say it is fantastic. Highly recommend it.
 
Here is a question I've often wondered. If you have a piece of coated Ti cookware and want to remove the coating, could you not throw it in a hot fire and burn the coating out of the pan/pot/cup?
 
No, don't burn up the pot. A cowboy acquaintance told me that Ti is sometimes alloyed w/ MAGNESIUM.

Don't take the chance.

None of my coated Ti stuff from SnowPeak or Evernew has shown the SLIGHTEST inclination to flake, unlike every fancy or cheap aluminum kitchen pan I've ever had. I imagine that Ti isn't as good as cast iron or aluminum to bake in, anyhow.
 
I'm no metalurgist, but I've looked into the aluminum alzheimers relationship, and it's unfounded. In the 70's a Canadian Doctor did Alzheimers research and found higer levels of Aluminium in Alzheimers patients. That story ran away with the idea that Aluminum caused it, when it was not founded. We consume metals all the time, Titanium and Aluminum are ingested all the time, by every mammal.

The manufacturing process of Titanium uses Magnesium in some way, don't know if that's different than cooking with some Ti/Magnesium alloy? Just make sure you know what metals your cooking with, and act accordingly.

Look at GSI cups and Zebra if you want a cup in SS that you can get for cheap. I have boiled water in my Guyot/Nalgene bottle, on the coals. It's nice to have a way to boil water, if you have to. Drinking hot drinks from metal hurts, for comfort take a cheap plastic mug, or a double wall metal cup, which is more $$$.
 
There are variations of the old Sierra cup around, some in 8 ounce, some in 10 ounce sizes. Rei carries a few types, I think. Titanium, steel, aluminum, and plastic are all available ,surely.
 
cool thanks fellas.

so the anodized shouldnt be harmful over open flame? i do not know much about anodized thats why i am asking.
 
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