Microchip

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gibbyx

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I mentioned this before but got no feedback, probably because it was at the tail end of a dying thread.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613787

Anyways, what do you guys think about the idea of makers/manufacturers imbedding a microchip or similar (something in addition to the makers mark or whatever is now used) for knives that are known to be instant collectibles. The purpose, of course, to authenticate such pieces which would be on the high end of the monetary scale and thus succeptible to counterfeiting.

Would this be something worth looking into?

Would people shudder at the idea and think it ruins the "purity" of the piece?

Will technology eventually make it a "no brainer" for something along these lines to be implemented?

What say ye???????

Gibby
 
I don't like the concept.

I guess I'm old fashioned, but I can't warm up to the idea. I believe knives are tools, first and foremost. However, I do also collect knives simply for enjoyment. As many would agree, knives are often more than just tools. Many are a work of art and/or an example of fine engineering and innovation. As valuable as some knives are, I wouldn't want to own any that have some sort of electronic ID gizmo embedded in them. Would I buy a Snap-On wrench with a chip inside it? No. Would I buy a St. Gaudens Double Eagle with a chip inside it? No. The items I mentioned are not knives, but I believe the concept to be the same.

If you are afraid of getting fake knives, I suggest buying only from authorized or otherwise reputable sellers. If you don't know the seller, I would stay away from deals that seem "too good to be true". I have never been burned in any deal when I stick to doing business with good folks whom I trust. Perhaps I have been lucky?
 
I Think that that is a terrible idea; microchipping knives. :thumbdn::thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
My first reaction was no. I did think it over though. I think there are a very select few makers whose pieces would even potentially benefit from such technology.

I don't think I would necessarily pass up buying a piece simply because of a passive chip imbedded in the handle or something like that but I certainly wouldn't purchase it based on that either.

I suppose for the RIGHT maker(s) it could be an interesting marketing tool. Let's face it, if we could wave a wand over a suspected Scagel and authenticate it, both the buyer and seller would benefit. I just don't see it going over very well.

Knife collecting is an emotional thing for most. Most people don't buy a knife solely for the possibility of making a buck off of it. We buy what we like.

I still say that the chip idea is not something that would go over very well and would most likely be perceived as a gimmick.

Just my thoughts.
SDS
 
What a ridiculous idea!

No chips in knives! No chips in people.

Could you imagine if they introduce a bill that outlawed knives the chip would f***** tell them where they are hiding.

No moronic new-world-order control chips please.

People MUST be allowed to own KNIVES AND GUNS!!!

Chipping would be Step 1. in a devious plan to take away your knives.:thumbdn::mad::grumpy:
 
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topspeclt said:
What a ridiculous idea!

No chips in knives! No chips in people.

Could you imagine if they introduce a bill that outlawed knives the chip would f***** tell them where they are hiding.

No moronic new-world-order, control chips please.

People MUST be allowed to own KNIVES AND GUNS!!!

Chipping would be Step 1. in a devious plan to take away your knives.:thumbdn::mad::grumpy:
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The OP is talking about very high end custom knives, not your EDC knives, like collectibles and limited editions to verify that they are not fakes and that you didn't spend over 800bucks on a fake knife.
 
Roger999 said:
The OP is talking about very high end custom knives, not your EDC knives, like collectibles and limited editions to verify that they are not fakes and that you didn't spend over 800bucks on a fake knife.
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I know what he said.

Problem is they start with high-end knives to ease the concept in. Then they increase to other classes of knives etc. That's how they have been trying to get the chip in with people. Start with a select group!
 
topspeclt said:
What a ridiculous idea!

No chips in knives! No chips in people.

Could you imagine if they introduce a bill that outlawed knives the chip would f***** tell them where they are hiding.

No moronic new-world-order control chips please.

People MUST be allowed to own KNIVES AND GUNS!!!

Chipping would be Step 1. in a devious plan to take away your knives.:thumbdn::mad::grumpy:
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Quick! head to the mountains, dont forget your bug out bag on the way out!


:D
 
Meh.

I'm not a high-end collector, my most expensive knife is worth under $1000.00, but I'd never pay money for any knife with a micro-chip in it.

Just rubs me the wrong way.
 
First, those chips wouldn't be readable outside of 3 feet, so I really don't think uncle sam will follow you around based on your high end custom. How would they even know it was a chip in your knife, and not your access card for work, unless they had a database with all the serials in it?

Second, I can see the value for a _collector_ as well as the maker of the knife. It could be verified without much doubt that its an original piece. Same as a letter of authenticity, but much harder to fake (since these types of chips have a number from the factory that can't be changed).

For knives that are not limited run production or customs, I can't see any value in this, what so ever.
 
monsterdog said:
First, those chips wouldn't be readable outside of 3 feet, so I really don't think uncle sam will follow you around based on your high end custom. How would they even know it was a chip in your knife, and not your access card for work, unless they had a database with all the serials in it?

Second, I can see the value for a _collector_ as well as the maker of the knife. It could be verified without much doubt that its an original piece. Same as a letter of authenticity, but much harder to fake (since these types of chips have a number from the factory that can't be changed).

For knives that are not limited run production or customs, I can't see any value in this, what so ever.
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Not quite.

If you get your house searched (for false reasons of course which IS happening daily) then even three feet is enough!
 
I can see some maker perhaps doing it as a novelty.

But to prevent faking of high-end customs knives? Creating a knife that looks exactly like someone else's is much harder than embedding a fake microchip. :)

What I'd like to see, an explosive chip that an owner could set off in case of theft. Of course you'd want to make double-sure the knife was really stolen, not just lost under the couch cushion. :D
 
Tony_A said:
3 feet is enough for what?

:rolleyes:

I hear lotion prevents the tinfoil from chafing.
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I hear that reading books and going to university makes you more intelligent.

I also heard that being breast-fed also makes you sharp...

Don't cut yourself.

LOL

[\sarcasm]
 
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I think if it is that high end that someone would counterfeit in the style of a maker, then a maker will probably keep decent enough records to tell you if it is his or not. Then again if you are a fan of a custom maker, looking at enough of their pieces will teach you to spot a fake....or instead of chips just a certificate of authenticity....my 2 cents
 
Only way to do chips is with fish or salsa....., or both for that matter.
 
Randall Knives has already done it...
this is an quote from an older sales thread on a different forum..............................................


MINT! Randall Mini Model 25 with Single Brass Hilt, Brass & Leather spacers, Gorgeous Stag handle and brass butt. Also includes original Tan Sullivan cover sheath and the Randall Mini Model 25 zippered pouch. This knife is serial # 1050 of only 1500 made and was second in the series of minis that carries a microchip transponder so the Randall shop can authenticate it. Knife is 6 5/8" on overall length.
 
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