Mike Snody....and opinions....

Kohai999

Kohai999

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I just got off of the phone with Mike Snody....

I called him...to clear the air.

I have no personal beef with Mike. My opinions were given under the presumption that he was/is a part time maker, working the craft as a hobby, if you will...that was wrong, the information was outdated.

I apologized to him for making that presumption. That simple, and if I could edit my comments on the previous thread(I can't, it's locked), I would.

Now, I understand that there has been some crap floating around the internet, which I cannot answer, due to certain circumstances(I'm banned from those venues).

Anyone who thinks that this apology to Mike was based upon anything but common respect, and consideration, instead of weakness or fear is wrong.

I will repeat, I apologize to Mike Snody, and only Mike Snody for certain presumptions which have turned out to be false. I encourage everyone reading this to create their own opinions by visiting:

http://www.snodyknives.com

That is all.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I admire you for apologizing STeven, but that Infomercial type thread with the repetitive "visit SnodyLand" posts wore me out:thumbdn:
 
Kohai999 said:
I just got off of the phone with Mike Snody....

I called him...to clear the air.

I have no personal beef with Mike. My opinions were given under the presumption that he was/is a part time maker, working the craft as a hobby, if you will...that was wrong, the information was outdated.

I apologized to him for making that presumption. That simple, and if I could edit my comments on the previous thread(I can't, it's locked), I would.

Now, I understand that there has been some crap floating around the internet, which I cannot answer, due to certain circumstances(I'm banned from those venues).

Anyone who thinks that this apology to Mike was based upon anything but common respect, and consideration, instead of weakness or fear is wrong.

I will repeat, I apologize to Mike Snody, and only Mike Snody for certain presumptions which have turned out to be false. I encourage everyone reading this to create their own opinions by visiting:

http://www.snodyknives.com

That is all.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Gotta respect that.
 
Kohai999 said:
I just got off of the phone with Mike Snody....

I called him...to clear the air.

I have no personal beef with Mike. My opinions were given under the presumption that he was/is a part time maker, working the craft as a hobby, if you will...that was wrong, the information was outdated.

I apologized to him for making that presumption. That simple, and if I could edit my comments on the previous thread(I can't, it's locked), I would.

Now, I understand that there has been some crap floating around the internet, which I cannot answer, due to certain circumstances(I'm banned from those venues).

Anyone who thinks that this apology to Mike was based upon anything but common respect, and consideration, instead of weakness or fear is wrong.

I will repeat, I apologize to Mike Snody, and only Mike Snody for certain presumptions which have turned out to be false. I encourage everyone reading this to create their own opinions by visiting:

http://www.snodyknives.com

That is all.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Thanks for the call today!!

My Beef with you is Officially Over!

It ended when you apologized to me on the phone today!

Thank You!!!

Please Visit SnodyLand!!!!

www.snodyknives.com

Edited to add pictures of a few knives I am working on today.

Take Care Everyone!!!!

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That's a nice move Steven, good on you. However, I find that I can avoid these types of situations entirely if I do my fact finding BEFORE I do my mouth running, just food for thought.
 
brandon said:
However, I find that I can avoid these types of situations entirely if I do my fact finding BEFORE I do my mouth running, just food for thought.
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Brandon,

You are absolutely right. I'll take it one step further. What I wrote in the other posting was impetuous and pointless.....

Why? Look at the original poster's count. 10 postings since signing up, no response. A knifemaker gets aspersions cast upon his work for someone who doesn't even have the decency to respond? And the information didn't even turn out to be 100% correct. Then I got trashed on....

I'm not perfect. I let my zeal to "educate and protect" the collector(especially the newb) override my judgement.

If we don't get more avid collectors into the community, and keep them there, then this segment of the cutlery industry will die. It really is all about the money.

I'm pretty proud of the fact that I have had to apologize 4 times in over 2,000 posts, often contentious posts, but I am not proud of my initial post on that other thread.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I let my zeal to "educate and protect" the collector(especially the newb) override my judgement.
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Zeal/arrogant prick - you do a good job of blurring those two with your online persona.
 
dogman said:
Zeal/arrogant prick - you do a good job of blurring those two with your online persona.
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What in particular yanked your chain, Mr. Doggett?

You credit 4 makers for helping you to learn how to make knives on your website.

Who in the heck is supposed to help new collectors, and how, in your opinion?

How many NEW collectors purchased your knives as their first knives? How many new collectors/users have you brought into the community?

In YOUR opinion, my "online" persona(pretty close to my real persona) blurs the line between arrogant prick/zealot. How do you suggest that I change this, especially when people pop up every damned time? You say "red", someone wants to opine "blue" or ask "how red, and what are your qualifications for that statement?"

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Personally I would encourage people to post their opinion (though the facts should be in order) good or bad. If all I wanted were to read good things and have the not-so-good points swept under the rug I would just stick to the magazines.
 
Hey! That a real stand up thing to do Steven! I wish that we knife makers could likewise try to educate the newer, knife makers.buyers, and collectors. But alas, I've learned the hard way. We haven't the right to an opinion here. We're simply mute commodities. People with experiences, we are not. I'm not sure we're even people. Mike
 
mlovett said:
Hey! That a real stand up thing to do Steven! I wish that we knife makers could likewise try to educate the newer, knife makers.buyers, and collectors. But alas, I've learned the hard way. We haven't the right to an opinion here. We're simply mute commodities. People with experiences, we are not. I'm not sure we're even people. Mike
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1. Mike, thank you very much for the comments.

2. Bailey Bradshaw is also from Texas, and is a well regarded full time knifemaking member of this community. I HIGHLY recommend that you contact him offline for his input concerning the best way to maximize the time spent here.

3. It bothers me that you think that those in the community regard makers as "commodities". That is not true, at all.

No one, not even the Dreaded Les Robertson looks at people that way. He has a family, he was not hatched from the ground like an Orc, has feelings, and just like anyone else, has bills to pay.

If he orders a knife, and it is not delivered, and he already has it sold to a waiting customer, you (I mean this in general, not you specifically) are not only taking money out of your own mouth, but his too. I have walked in his shoes, not an easy path, I assure you.

If you are giving people what they want(makers and knife buyers) they all say great things to your face, but stab you in the back. If you are not giving them what they want, you are an a-hole to everyone. It is not easy, and ultimately after 5 years, pre-internet, I decided that my future was in business-to-business sales.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
That was a cool thing to do Steven. Compared to some guys here like you, I am a complete knife n00b, but even I know that Mike Snody is not just some part time hobbyist. Pretty big name to me.... If I'm not mistaken, he has designed knives for Benchmade? Do part time hobbyists do things like that?
 
psycho78 said:
If I'm not mistaken, he has designed knives for Benchmade? Do part time hobbyists do things like that?
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Well......yeah, sometimes they do. Makers go in and out of being full time. Some have super duper "day jobs", that provide great $$ and benefits (I thought Mike was at this point when he designed for Benchmade, but I could be wrong).

Bob Lum is a name that comes to mind, I know for a fact that he was full-time in the photographic field when he initially designed for Spyderco, because I used to have to phone him at work.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
1. Mike, thank you very much for the comments.

2. Bailey Bradshaw is also from Texas, and is a well regarded full time knifemaking member of this community. I HIGHLY recommend that you contact him offline for his input concerning the best way to maximize the time spent here.

3. It bothers me that you think that those in the community regard makers as "commodities". That is not true, at all.

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Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I am utterly confused. Do YOU own this site? Are you an owner?
 
Jared P said:
I am utterly confused. Do YOU own this site? Are you an owner?
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No, I don't own this site. IF I did, I would display far more diplomacy than I actually do. Kevin, AKA Spark owns BladeForums and 1SKS.

I'm an avid supporter of BladeForums, and a paying member. I also roost in the Cove and this here Forum.

In addition, when I comes to Lovett............I just want him to be able to accomplish his goals. Have you ever seen his knives? They are too cool for school!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
dogman said:
Zeal/arrogant prick - you do a good job of blurring those two with your online persona.
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He is our arrogant prick, wouldn't trade him for a "nicer" version if we could.
 
Kohai999 said:
No, I don't own this site. IF I did, I would display far more diplomacy than I actually do. Kevin, AKA Spark owns BladeForums and 1SKS.

I'm an avid supporter of BladeForums, and a paying member. In addition, when I comes to Lovett............I just want him to accomplish his goals. Have you ever seen his knives? They are too cool for school!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I have seen his knives, they are very nice.

I guess, then it is kind of mind boggling to me (a no one in the "community" and a wannabe-wannabe knifemaker) that you feel you can dictate to anyone what is or is not acceptable behavior based, apparently, on YOUR own inclinations and desires. In other words, why should Mike Lovett or Mike Snody or any other maker contact Bailey Bradshaw so they can learn to act like him arond YOU so that YOU will not "educate" them unfairly with your "zeal"????

I'm a fairly quiet guy, don't post much and read a lot. I love the Custom forum because that is my primary interest and I love to see the new work of my favorite makers...but to be honest, lately it's not been much fun. The main reason has been YOUR school yard bully attitude and antics. Have an opinion, that is great, however, trying to force OTHERS to your opinion (especially makers) because YOU want it that way is a turn off. I love this place, and have been viewing almost since the beginning, and I just don't see how your attitude helps...at all. I don't look at you as an "expert", I see you as a sort of blowhard. I would say no offence, but that would be disingenuous.

I guess my point is why do you feel that it's okay to be such a perceived jerk then try to pass it off as "Hey, that's just me"? That doesn't make it alright.

To be clear, I do NOT know Mike Snody or Mike Lovett (although they are fellow Texans and that warms my heart :D) and I don't have a "beef" with you. I just don't know how to react to your self-importance.


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