Mil-Tac TDP-1 vs. Schrade Tactical Pen

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As some of you are aware, Taylor Brands has recently released some clones of some of the more popular defense pens on the market under both their Smith & Wesson and Schrade brands. Being an owner of the Mil-Tac TDP-1, of which the Schrade is a clone, I couldn't pass up the chance to get one and do a side by side comparison.

The largest factor that plays a role here is price. The Mil-Tac has an MSRP of around $90, whilst the Schrade has an MSRP of a mere $40--less than half the cost of the Mil-Tac. So let's see how they stack up against each other, eh?

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For starters, we can see the clear similarities between the two. The Schrade is a little longer, a little pointier, and has a flatter clip than the Mil-Tac. Additionally there are five machined flutes on the barrel as opposed to three, and there are some machined bands around the exterior of the cap. The top is also a bit more flat across. It is also slightly heavier in the hand.

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The Mil-Tac is one slick pen, as one might expect given who designed it. The clip (which is held in a machined pocket by two T6 screws) is springy and tight, and the whole unit just floats in the hand. It's one heck of a writing tool. All surfaces that ride inside the pocket are smooth, and won't rub or abrade clothing, yet feels decently comfortable in a thumb-reinforced icepick grip. The non-threatening appearance of this pen was what originally drew me to it as opposed to the Benchmade pen series, and it has yet to draw any questions when I use it in public.

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The Schrade as a whole feels a little bit sharper in terms of the machining--i.e. less time was spent taking the "edge" off of them, but this doesn't prove irritating to the hand or the pocket, and forms an excellent grip when held in the ice-pick mode. The clip, which is affixed identically to the Mil-Tac, is a bit smaller with a larger contact point. I almost wish the clip was a bit less tight, but at least it means I never have to worry about it popping out of my pocket! That being said, the extra half inch of length makes it slightly less pocketable than the shorter Mil-Tac, but gives it a lot more penetration power with its more tapered point (which isn't SHARP like a Benchmade).
 
A side-by-side shot:

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With the caps removed:

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The Mil-Tac suffers one fatal flaw for me, and that is that it has very short threads for the cap. Combine that with the fact that it's aluminum and I've had the pen rattle itself free of the cap and fall into my pocket, getting ink everywhere. BAD. :angry: Fortunately after adding a rubber O-ring between the body and the cap I have yet to experience this problem again. For the money you have to shell out on one of these I think they could have done that for you, and perhaps made a retention groove for the ring to sit in. Oh well, $0.50 at the hardware store and a few minutes of grunting were all that it took to install one. I did the same on the Schrade just as a precaution, though with its longer threaded portion it's not as much of a concern.

Mil-Tac in hand:

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Schrade:

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The guts:

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The Mil-Tac takes roller ball inserts (which often are slightly off-standard in terms of sizing) and I've had to modify refills to make them the right length since it doesn't use a spring on the insert like a ballpoint does. Unfortunately Fisher doesn't make a roller ball insert, but you'll see my solution to that a little further down.

The Schrade uses a standard ballpoint insert and comes with a Hauser branded insert from the factory, but I immediately replaced it with a Fisher one. :D

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So here's my Mil-Tac mod...

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Looks like a regular roller ball doesn't it? Well, using the original insert, I was able to gut it, add a rubber spacer inside of it to correct the depth, and drill out the cap, allowing it to house a ballpoint like so:

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I still think that both are great for the money, but as a whole feel that while the Mil-Tac costs twice as much as the Schrade, it's not twice the pen. However they are still both phenomenal pieces of equipment, and I'm glad to have both. :)
 
Thanks for the review. Both seem like interesting defensive tools and pretty good writing instruments as well. :thumbup:

Can anyone cite a review to the SureFire defensive pen? SureFire's a name that I have a lot of faith in. I'd like to see how Benchmade, Taylor Cutlery, Mil-Tac, and SureFire's pens all stack up against one another.
 
Have you looked at any non-tactical pens with an eye toward using them in that role. The Fisher Space Pen Futura model looks like a pretty sturdy metal pen that might be worth looking into.
 
Given that Knifecenter has them (the Schrade) for $22, it's actually less expensive to go for the tactical! :D
 
Thanks for the review. Both seem like interesting defensive tools and pretty good writing instruments as well. :thumbup:

Can anyone cite a review to the SureFire defensive pen? SureFire's a name that I have a lot of faith in. I'd like to see how Benchmade, Taylor Cutlery, Mil-Tac, and SureFire's pens all stack up against one another.

I've got both the Surefire 1 and 2 pens, and they are built like tanks. My preference is number 2 - since you can click and get the pen out instead of twisting. Damn things feel like batons in your hand - they are not for the faint of heart.

If you're looking for a pen that looks like it can kill someone from across the room these ain't it. But pound for pound -it will leave a serious dent in someones head if you choose to use it in that fashion.:thumbup:

I regularly have to go visit with govt agencies, and I just don't think I can get any of the other really tactical looking pens past the guys and gals at the detectors. Neither of my Surefire pens get a second look.
 
I regularly have to go visit with govt agencies, and I just don't think I can get any of the other really tactical looking pens past the guys and gals at the detectors. Neither of my Surefire pens get a second look.

I've flown several times with my Mil-Tac and never been given trouble, even when they stopped me to search my bag 'cause they didn't know what my space blankets were on the x-ray machine. :D
 
I've got the Lightfoot, Mil-Tac, Perrin, and Surefire 1. I like all of them except the Lightfoot. The Perrin is really just a normal ballpoint with a cap rather than a clcker,
 
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