Military and Paramilitary

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I need a hard use folder for AEDC ('Almost' EDC:jerkit: ) and have been considering both these Spyders...

I WAS LEANING PARA, UNTIL...
I have been reading a lot of negatives/concerns here about the PARA's compression lock, high rides, "QC" etc.

Does the Military have the same 'perceived' or real issues? Same exact compression lock?

Lastly, is there any real use for the CE combo edge on a PARA/MILITARY? I'd like to have some teeth for emergencies like seat belts or rope, but don't anticipate needing them often at all.

Thanks.
 
The military has a liner lock, and not a compression lock.
I, for one, like the compression lock on my paramilitary. I guess it's a matter of preference, and I have had no problems, at all, with the lock.
I, also, own a military, with the liner lock and have had no problems with it either.
If you don't care for either of these locks, then look at the Manix, with the lockback. It's even a stouter knife, but I would recommend any of these as a hard use knife.
If you're concerned about high ridin see http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374927g
 
Why, thanks! bigdog for the quick reply.

So there is a basic difference b/t the two: liner vs compression - two very different locking mechanisms.

I like the big Manix too; but after owning a Chinook, I'd rather have it for strictly outdoor use.
I prefer the Mil and Paramilitary blade profile for EDC, and always wanted to have one ever since the Military came out.

I'll probably go Military. How many here think it's too big for EDC?

How about that combo edge?
 
The Military is far superior to the Para in ergos and QC issues, in my experience. The Military is quite long, but it is very thin and light, so it carries very well. Awesome design. On of the best out there for a folder, in my opinion.

I happen to like combo edge on hard user knives, as when you are using a knife frequently, it tends to dull, and the serrations keep it cutting much, much longer. Serrations are also much harder to damage than a straight edge, where you may aquire many little nicks and dings that are hard to sharpen out, especially with S30V. I preferre PE on small EDC and knives I like for looks, but if I'm taking one to work, it's going to be combo edge at the very least, but probably fully serrated. I think CE is great for versatility. People that say you don't get enough of either blade type in a combo edge are completely full of it.
 
The military is large, but light and thin so it seems to melt in my pocket. You will hardly notice it. It rides high but I find this to be a benefit in deployment, since it is a tip down carry. I have never had any problems with the liner lock, a nice clean open back design makes for simple cleaning. I considered picking up a Para, but I have too many knives that size already.
 
IUKE12 said:
The military is large, but light and thin so it seems to melt in my pocket. You will hardly notice it. It rides high but I find this to be a benefit in deployment, since it is a tip down carry. I have never had any problems with the liner lock, a nice clean open back design makes for simple cleaning. I considered picking up a Para, but I have too many knives that size already.

That's pretty much what I want to hear. Don't mind that it's big as long as it's thin. Easy to clean is a BIG bonus for me as I like to keep my knives (like all my equipment) clean.
I already have a Native 3D for smaller blade, so no point in getting Para cause it's similar size.
 
I prefer the Military for most of the reasons stated. Thin, light and with a blade of suitable length. My only qualm has been the tip-down carry with this knife. This makes sliding your hand into your pocket more difficult than it would if the knife was tip-up carry due to the knife's blade hump protrusion and, lack of radiusing around the handle tang.

With tip-up carry the smooth radiused butt minimizes abstruction when the hand slides down into the pocket. Other than this the Military is a very comfortable knife to hold and use. The liner lock is extremely simple to operate. Its got a handle that allows for a full, easy and secure grip (of course this is true with the Para as well), while providing a blade with enough cutting surface for an easy natural slicing motion without worrying about running out of blade. It just exudes a sort of relaxing feel to be cutting with this knife. Of course much of this is likely preference since I favor a larger knife with more blade length. Anyway.....

I like both knives but my preference is the Military. As a side note, I also pretty much agree with "J85909266" about serrations. Depending on your intended work with a knife, serrations (full or partial) can make life much easier when engaged in your cutting activities.
 
rnhood said:
I like both knives but my preference is the Military. As a side note, I also pretty much agree with "J85909266" about serrations. Depending on your intended work with a knife, serrations (full or partial) can make life much easier when engaged in your cutting activities.

I heeded the advice.
I just purchased a very handsome Black Military with partial serrated S30V blade for $98. This is one mean-looking blade - especially with serrations, but I'm confident that it will cut just as mean too.

Thanks for your thoughtful insight RNHOOD.:thumbup:
 
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