military question

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I just got a new Military PE and have a few questions.

First, the liner lock is all the way to the left. It barely engages the lock. It seems secure but it looks kind of weird being that far over. I've never had a liner lock that engaged that little when I got it. Has anyone else had one like this?

Second, how long does it take to "break in" the action? It's pretty tight even with tuff glide. Should I loosen the pivot or give it a while to work in?

Other than that I love the knife. Can't wait to carry and use it.

Thanks.
 
I usually like my knives with the liner engaged that way when new. Gives me more time to work it in and may have a longer life span than liner that engage too much to the right.

I've not had a military that does this but I have had several Benchmades and Emersons that started out this way.

The duration of time to "break it in" depends on how often you're opening and closing your knife. Also depends on how hard you're doing it. Typically for me the break in period may take 1-2 weeks. Seemed to take longer on my AFCK though. So I guess it can get knife specific.
 
I'd say the liner is fine, I prefer liners to engage about 25% in, but it's better 25% than 95%...
My Tufram Cricket engaged all the way to the right. I had it apart this spring as I'm making SS scales for it(just about done, still have the pivot hole[D-pin])... worked on the lock by hand and now it engages about 1/2 way in. Just heated up a bit by lighter and bend by hand till it's right(after cooling).

As to the tightness, lube it up with Breakfree or WhiteLightning, and work away at it. Should loosen up after about 800-1000 openings. Then it's slick as butter.
 
I noticed that my friends new Millie did the same thing. Only engages a tiny bit. Makes it easier to close that way, and I don't see that making it any more prone to failure really. My Millie, which is some years old, flops all the way over to the right, with a modicum of play. I hear that titanium(thats what its made of right?) "galls" over time, and will begin to move over to the right as time goes by. I still think the scales would shatter before the blade closes on yer hand tho, and I know I'm not capable of such forces. Have fun with the knife, I love mine.
 
The linerlock on my Military PE also locks at about 25% from the left. I've gotten used to its' position and haven't had ANY problems. Absolutely NO play!!!

As far as lube, I use Tuf-Glide on the pivot. My Millie was easily broken in (about 1 week) after I received it. Just consistently open and close it for a few days and you shouldn't have a problem breaking it in.

I'm sure that you'll enjoy your Millie. I switch my Spydie EDCs around occasionally, but ALWAYS tend to go back to carrying my Millie. Enough blade for ANY task at hand. ;)

Just my .02 :D
 
My Military engages fully onto the blade tang, but is still over on the left, which I like in a liner lock. That means there is a lot more wear left in it, and the Spyderco liner locks are self-adjusting for wear. Also, to unlock mine is not difficult but you must consciously unlock it; it won't slide off the blade tang.

My only problem with my Millie is I'm afraid of dulling the CPM 440V and having to resharpen it (I've never had to re-touch up CPM 440V yet). Oh, well, guess I might as well enjoy my Millie and when it does start to lost its bite and needs a resharpening, I'll just do it.

BTW, I'm not sure if you're supposed to adjust the pivot on a Spyderco; I think it's recommended the pivot only be adjusted by the factory itself.
Jim
 
Having the liner fall left of center on the tang, yet still fully engage it, sounds good to me too. If the liner is moving all the way to the right, and you have blade play, then you should probably adjust the lock-up.

Tightening or loosening the pivot screw shouldn't cause any problems. (You can completely remove the pivot screw from the pivot pin and the pivot pin will stay in place inside the handle.) Changing where the liner falls on the tang is a bit tricky though: you have to remove the pivot pin, rotate it, and carefully reinsert it into the handle.

Spyderco strongly recommends that you send the knife in if you want the lock-up adjusted. (You may even void the warranty on your knife if you fool with it yourself.) If you do want to have a go at it though, then refer to this excellent post: Adjusting the Eccentric Pivot.
 
Mine is about 35% over when engaged.
These liners are stainless, not titanium. I like the stainless liners better because they dont stick (gall) when you try to release them.

brembo- sounds like it is time to send your Military to Spyderco for adjustment. The Militaries have an "eccentric pivot" which allows adjustment to compensate for liner wear. I don't really know how it works, but would like to find out so I can do it on my Military if I ever need to.
 
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