Military Unlocks?

[Razor]

I just want to say that the military is my favorite knife of all times! I was walking my dog yesterday afternoon and on the trail they were some cockal burr weeds growing on the trail. I hate these things because the stick to your pants and get in the dogs hair. I took my new green KW CTX-204P and started to cut them off of the trail. As I was cutting them I looked down and the military had unlocked. Of all the militarys I have owned I have never had this to happen. When I got back home I tried to tighten the pivots but they seem tight. Should a man be concerned? When you open the knife it seems to lock solid. The knife cuts great and I really like it. It just surprise me as it has never happened with the 6-8 other one I have owned. Also, what size torx wrench do the new militarys use?

 

[sharp_edge]

More info is needed. How exactly did it get unlocked, like when you did what and how the motion was like? Were you twisting it with your finger on the lock liner?

 

[Razor]

I was kinda twisting the knife because it had kinda hung up in the weed the best I can remember. My finger may have pull the liner loose. I have used my 52100 the same way and it has never unlocked. It may have just been me.

 

[jstn]

Odd. That is one reason I cannot figure out why they don't put the compression lock on the Military, or make it an option. No chance of your finger accidentally disengaging it. I would own a Millie if they had the comp lock option.

 

[Chris "Anagarika"]

Such incident is primarily the reason of my dislike of large release cutout on Resilience, similar to Military. It is rare, but it happens.

I prefer liner lock to be like the GB (without cutout), though I still like lock back for its symmetrical aspect better. I'm still hesitant because of it (large release cutout).

 

[Riz!]

Ive never had it happen to any of my Militarys but I imagine that the twisted theory is why it unlocked. As for turning the pivot, i believe they used red locktite on them. You are probably going to have to use heat from a soldering iron to loosen it up. My 204p sprint's pivotscrew can not be turned because of it. I am not going to heat it up until there is a real reason to.

 

[bearfacedkiller]

It is a give and take with the lock bar cutouts.

One one hand I saw in an interview with Gayle Bradley that they did not put a cutout on the Bradley Folder so an inadvertent disengaging of the lock wouldn't happen. On the other hand Sal has said that the large cutout on the Military was put there to make the lock functional while wearing gloves.

I spend a lot of time outside in the winter in a very cold climate and the Military is my go to knife at that time because it is so easy to operate with gloves on. The Bradley folder is basically impossible to operate with any gloves on. I LOVE both Bradley folders but but people constantly praise what great work knives they are yet they cannot be operated with work gloves on.

While a comp lock Military would be cool it is probably worth noting that our beloved comp lock is not an overly glove friendly lock. I have tried to use a Para2 in the winter and it is not easy.

 

[DocT]

On all points these are why I prefer the back lock.

 

[Kels73]

In the US Armed Forces, personnel commonly wear gloves during field operations. In fact in many operations, the use of gloves is formally required. Since the Spyderco Military was designed with military usage in mind, it comes as no surprise that the lock cutout is large enough to accommodate a gloved thumb.

But as is the case with all design decisions, there are trade-offs. The possibility of unintentional lock release is greater in a knife like the Military than it is in a knife like the Gayle Bradley 2; however, I suspect that the difference is negligible during most use. Yes, you have to be mindful of what your hand is doing to the lock if you decide to twist or tug on the handle. But in the case of most cutting actions, the large lock cutout on the Military will never be an issue.

 

[JNewell]

It is a give and take with the lock bar cutouts.

One one hand I saw in an interview with Gayle Bradley that they did not put a cutout on the Bradley Folder so an inadvertent disengaging of the lock wouldn't happen. On the other hand Sal has said that the large cutout on the Military was put there to make the lock functional while wearing gloves.

I spend a lot of time outside in the winter in a very cold climate and the Military is my go to knife at that time because it is so easy to operate with gloves on. The Bradley folder is basically impossible to operate with any gloves on. I LOVE both Bradley folders but but people constantly praise what great work knives they are yet they cannot be operated with work gloves on.

While a comp lock Military would be cool it is probably worth noting that our beloved comp lock is not an overly glove friendly lock. I have tried to use a Para2 in the winter and it is not easy.

This (exactly this). Leave the Military alone. Use it and any other folder with some level of awareness and you won't have any surprise unlocks. It's a discipline not unlike trigger discipline.

 

[Chris "Anagarika"]

It is a give and take with the lock bar cutouts.

One one hand I saw in an interview with Gayle Bradley that they did not put a cutout on the Bradley Folder so an inadvertent disengaging of the lock wouldn't happen. On the other hand Sal has said that the large cutout on the Military was put there to make the lock functional while wearing gloves.

I spend a lot of time outside in the winter in a very cold climate and the Military is my go to knife at that time because it is so easy to operate with gloves on. The Bradley folder is basically impossible to operate with any gloves on. I LOVE both Bradley folders but but people constantly praise what great work knives they are yet they cannot be operated with work gloves on.

While a comp lock Military would be cool it is probably worth noting that our beloved comp lock is not an overly glove friendly lock. I have tried to use a Para2 in the winter and it is not easy.

All valid points, especially winter & glove. I live in tropics so I never thought of it.

On all points these are why I prefer the back lock.

I also prefer back lock.

 

[Josh K]

I haven't had a Military (or any knife apart from an Umnumzaan) unlock on me unexpectedly. With the size of the handle on a Military it's a bit easier to keep the fingers out of the lock area.