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Minimal Kit...Soaking Wet Conditions....

Mistwalker

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You're in the woods, or at least many of the woods in the Eastern U.S. and Western Europe that I am sure of, it's been raining for days on end and you need a fire but only have a small knife and a firesteel....


So, how do you go from this...
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To this...
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With only these?
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Well...if you know that nature produces a natural accelerant that won't absorb water, ignites easily, and will even burn in lighter rains called fatwood... and that it is often found disguised as a rotten looking remnant of a tree. And if you have some basic skills with a small knife, then it's really not difficult at all.
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First you'll want to gather some of this fatwood, and then something for a base that will dry much quicker than wet ground such as a piece or bark which will work well for making your tinder pile on.
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Then you'll want to gather some dead branches that have been hung up in trees or laying on top of other logs, not laying on the ground and bring them to you fire spot, and start breaking them into smaller pieces and making piles. You'll want to separate them by size and moisture content, you'll see that the ones that have been off the ground will be much dryer than the ones that have been laying on the ground
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Then taking up the fatwood you just make a few different textures of material. First make some fuzz either by scraping the edge or or spine of the knife on the wood in line with the grain in a planing type motion. It's better done with the spine if it's sharp enough as this will preserve your edge. Next make some thin slivers of fatwood, and then some thicker slices. Then arrange this is an order so that the fuzz is on bottom and the thicker slices are on top but with an area of the fuzz exposed to catch the sparks....and then spark it.
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Then once you have steady flames start laying you broken branch tinder on the fire smallest and driest first, and the largest and wettest on top. Watch out as you do because while you do need to place the tinder where it will get the most heat and dry out, the steam that is going to be coking out of the wet wood will burn your hand if you are too slow at it and it will also hurt your eyes as much as or more so than smoke.
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You can even use a small section of sapling as a baton to both cut and split some larger pieces.
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And in just a bit you'll be ready to warm up, dry off, cook dinner...or just enjoy the firelight in the Wilderness.
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Nice pics. Good amount of fuel too. I always find the problem isnt with making a fire, but with striking a balance of getting the fire going easily while gathering/preparing as little tinder and kindling as possible.
 
I always like them. I haven't been responding as much as I used to because I've had some other things going on, not because I haven't seen your threads, which are always good.
 
Nice pics. Good amount of fuel too. I always find the problem isnt with making a fire, but with striking a balance of getting the fire going easily while gathering/preparing as little tinder and kindling as possible.

Ain't that the truth! Jeff Randall's motto is a good one. You gather as much tinder and kindling as you think you will need. Then you triple that amount.

Our wonderful mod, Kevin, also indicated before that Hardly anybody practices making a real fire. They get a flame going and think they have success.

This is good post Mistwalker - you used relatively poor conditions, demonstrated how to find the right kindling, and carried your test through to a self sustaining fire. Admittedly, it is often difficult to do that. Fire restrictions/bans throughout different area and a generally frowned upon practice of producing fire scars in nature usually keep our training mindsets confined to BBQs and designated fire pits. Or we just start a tiny little flame on our tinder, extinguish and call it success.
 
Nice thread!! I am still working on my fire building skills so I love threads like these. Great pictures.
 
That is the way to do business!
About the only time Beckerhead jr. and I do firecraft it is either wet, raining, cold, dark, windy, or a combination thereof. Last year I had him outside helping me load wood for the woodstove and when he was good and chilled and had cold numb hands I gave him my Mora, firesteel, and a chunk of fatwood and told him to make a fire.
He proceeded to split, then scrape the fatwood, pile up the wispy little curls, and pulled a nice heap of splintered wood off some of the split oak, yanked the tops off some dead weeds and struck a nice fire as I watched.
It wasn't really fast or elegantly laid, but in about 5-10 minutes a 9 yr. old had fire lit.

kudos for keeping it legit.

Like my dad always said, "you play like you practice, so practice hard!!"

Beckerhead
 
Thanks guys I'm glad you enjoyed the thread. I'm lucky to live where I do and own my own little slice of heaven where a good bit of land behind my house is undeveloped and likely won't be any time soon.

I do a lot of practice at "firesarting" where it is just getting flame in a small container...not to test my skills but to test methods and tools. I don't worry much about my fire ability skills here anymore, and haven't in many years. Though I am only recently studying the more primitive methods like the bow drill, and more modern methods like cell phone batteries, as long as I am here in this area, have a firesteel, a lighter, or a dry match...I will have fire. You see while most of my friends were busy learning how to roller skate I was being raised by a family that got stuck in the great depression. We trapped, hunted, and fished both for our food and for money. As a kid, starting at age six, one of my jobs was to start and keep the fire going while the adults were out....you'd just have to know my ex Marine father to understand how good I got at doing my jobs.
 
Interesting fire, you seem to lay the sticks more paralel then I ever do...I always figured you got bad air flow like that.
 
Thanks for the thread. I have been starting all kinds of fires recently as I just bought a new firesteel and it seems to throw a lot more sparks, but they don't burn as long. Kind of offsets it, I guess.
 
What's the knife you got there? Got specs on that puppy? Good read and nice pics.:thumbup:
 
Interesting fire, you seem to lay the sticks more paralel then I ever do...I always figured you got bad air flow like that.

Well...to me it's just more efficient and less work. Normally I would have built the fire between to larger logs which hold in heat, hold the fire in place, and make some other things like cooking easier...and you can lay really wet wood close to the flames and above them to dry without smothering the fire by spanning the logs with them. In a long term camp we used to use some logs 18 to 24 inches in diameter and about 8 to 10 feet long. Laying the logs all parallel like that makes the fire self feeding leaving you more freedom to perform other camp chores without having to chase falling pieces. but I left those logs out this time for benefit of taking pictures.Branches aren't 2x4s they aren't straight and don't have smooth sides there are almost always air gaps for drawing air. I guess it's just all in what you are used to doing...everyone has the way that suits their needs the best I suppose...this is just mine.



Thanks for the thread. I have been starting all kinds of fires recently as I just bought a new firesteel and it seems to throw a lot more sparks, but they don't burn as long. Kind of offsets it, I guess.

Interesting, what kind of firesteel is it? I just got a firesteel.com firesteel and it's nothing like what I'm used to either...and doesn't throw more sparks, but when I manage to get it to throw one buddy it's a SPARK! and burns for a bit. I'm more consistent with the light my fire brand...this fire took two sparks from the firesteel...even blew my neighbor's mind.



as always, great stuff!


Thanks zhang, glad you enjoyed it.




What's the knife you got there? Got specs on that puppy? Good read and nice pics.:thumbup:


Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it. It's a knife i came up with the idea for a while back that Bryan Breeden and I worked out over the last couple of weeks. It's 6" long...2.75 blade/3.25 handle 1/8" O-1 steel. You can see the development of it here.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670210



great pics, thanks!

Thanks man, glad you liked!
 
Sweet thread and great pics! I still have quite a bit of practice to do with my fire making skills, this should definitely help with some techniques! Thanks!
 
Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it. It's a knife i came up with the idea for a while back that Bryan Breeden and I worked out over the last couple of weeks. It's 6" long...2.75 blade/3.25 handle 1/8" O-1 steel. You can see the development of it here.

Man between this thread and the one you linked to, it makes me want to start edc'ing my Gossman PSK again. I did it for a while but then bought a SAK farmer and just started carrying that. Maybe I'll have to carry both.:D
 
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