minimizing gear

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Went for a little hike yesterday(more to spend time in the woods than to hike) it was awesome light of decent wildlife sightings, gave the f1 a little workout made some sandwhiches with it and rigged up a willow branch fishing pole to throw a line in by a beaver damn...but what I realized is that I carry entirely too much stuff got to start and scale down... I'm all for being prepared but it does seem like I take alot for an afternoon. I always bring my but I never touch it because than I know everything I need will be there, so I end up doubling up on a lot of gear..other than that though I had a great afternoon.. fish were jumping..(they don't like chiken as muvh as i do) the place were I set up was covered with butterflies...I'll be posting pics soon hopefully. Well Thanks for listening.
 
for the get bag in my car/truck i still pack a lot, but on my feet i to tend to get weighed do by too much gear weight.
i've in the last years started to look at gear by weight.
 
My three season base pack weight is about 12 pounds, a couple more for winter. Base weight means all but consumables-- food, water, and fuel. My all up for three days is more like 21-22 pounds. There are some ultratralight fanatics who get below a 5 pound base weight, but I'm not even interested in going there. At 5 pounds, a first aid kit is something like a few bandaids and some antibiotic salve. Survival gear is typically a whistle, a mini Bic and an SAK Classic. I just read last week of a guy who carries just a single edge razor blade for a knife.

When going on multi-day trips, your pack full of gear is your survival kit, with water carrier, water treatment, cooking tools, navigation tools, extra clothing and shelter. My PSK is for Murphy's Law scenarios: my gear has been lost or damaged, I'm injured, or lost. My PSK is the minimum that might keep me alive. At the very least, my PSK is a necklace or pocket lanyard with whistle, firesteel, mini-compass, LED microlight, and a mini-multitool or small knife. The next step up includes water bladder/treatment, fishing and snare items, space blanket, garbage bag, wire saw, more fire starting tools, cook pot, more signalling gear, paracord or other small line. The goal is water, fire, food, shelter, navigation, and signalling. First aid is something that I compartmentalize separately-- I carry a 6 oz kit that readily transfers from day hiking to multi-day packs.

For day hiking, I have a hydration pack or a small pack with a water bladder, a PSK in a pouch mounted on a sheath with a knife, a bivy bag and first aid kit. I carry a little exrta food, like a granola bar and candy, and a spare layer of clothing-- a fleece pullover or an insulated vest. A poncho is a good multi-use backup raingear and shelter for those summer day hikes where full rain gear seems too much. If it looks like rain, it's a lightweight rain jacket, and rain pants too for shoulder seasons.

Leaving my trip plans and a deadline with a trusted friend or family member is the first stage of my survival plans. I know if I don't call and check in by a certain time that they will call in the cavalry and I can plan accordingly. That weighs and costs nothing!

A pound of survival gear is a lot--- half that would do. That's shy of a larger knife, which I'm seeing as a personal choice. Moras and SAK's are about 3.5oz. Full size multi-tools start in about 6oz and can double if you want. A thick 4"-ish fixed blade and sheath runs more like 8oz. Saws, hatchets or machetes aren't absolutes for hiking survival gear and can add a lot of weight in a hurry. It's another personal choice.

By personal choice, I mean other than the essentials that all the outdoor oganizations recommend. IMHO, if you go afield without them, you're just asking for trouble:

1. Map
2. Compass
3. Flashlight / Headlamp
4. Extra Food
5. Extra Clothes
6. Sunglasses
7. First-Aid Kit
8. Pocket Knife
9. Waterproof Matches
10. Firestarter
11. Water / Filter / Bottles
12. Whistle
13. Insect Repellents or Clothing
14. Sunburn Preventatives
 
Here is my best tip.....get a smaller Pack....what ever size pack you have you end up filling , I have been there !!!
 
RR I'm guilty of carrying more than I really need at times too. In my case there isn't a choice when it comes to carrying water but everything can be lightened up. I don't usually carry a full PSK, just a few essentials. Dales list is well thought out and appears to be light weight. Makes sense to me. His list is very similar to what the Boy Scouts recommened.

I am amazed at what people here EDC. I would have to wear suspenders to keep that load from pulling my pants down. I guess my daily tasks are pretty mundane compared to most peoples.
 
You know, the largest pack I've ever had, the one I have now, is 16 pounds (thats with a 10'X12' tarp and a 19" axe). I guess you can call that light weight, even now I'm thinking its too much. I'll get some pictures up of it asap, so you can see what I think is sometimes too much.
 
Here is my 16 pound pack.
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And here is whats on my belt/ in pockets.
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I'm much the minimalist. water bottle, knives, flint&steel, cordage, and a 9'x9' square of plastic. this in a haversack. but I always comeback with more than I left with. seems theres always acorns to pick, or cane for arrows, or rocks to try to knapp. Last time it was a oak fungus that I had been told would catch a good spark. I stuffed the fungus inside of oak gauls, seams like it will make a nice tinder bundle.
 
Nice package Fonly - whats that thing with the numbers and LCD screen for?
Kidding - but my phones hardly every work in the outdoors. Little weather radio/VHS radio can sometimes (sometimes) be handy though.
 
Nice package Fonly - whats that thing with the numbers and LCD screen for?
Kidding - but my phones hardly every work in the outdoors. Little weather radio/VHS radio can sometimes (sometimes) be handy though.

Yeah, I only take it when im around parks and whatnot, any further and its useless. besides, I like the lonsomeness. :D
 
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