Misled

Joined
Feb 11, 2006
Messages
174
Some threads today had me making an unexpected trip down memory lane. I've been a knife knut for a long time. I certainly didn't know anything about blade steels or much of anything else when I started out. I naively put my faith in a few big name companies, thinking that everything those companies produced MUST be "pretty good"... So... What leaps of faith left you with that sinking feeling?

For me, one of the biggest unpleasant surprises came with my first "one handed knife". I had just gotten a job working offshore and decided I needed a knife that could be use with one hand. Until that time, my EDC knives had been either stockmans, swiss army knives, or multitools.

I started looking, and found an inexpensive Puma. I had ALWAYS lusted after a nice Puma knife and thought this was the perfect opportunity. Boy was I mistaken. It was a liner lock. It was impossible to open with one hand because the pivot was very tight. The pivot seemed to be a brass rivot, so not adjustable. With the blade open, the liner barely touched the blade. There wasn't just blade play, the knife RATTLED. The only things holding the knife together were that one rivet at the pivot and a brass ferrule that acted as a lanyard hole. The blade was chisel ground, dull, and nearly as soft as aluminum. *shakes head*

After that, I paid more attention to materials and tried to do whatever research I could before making another purchase. My next choice was better, but not great. I picked up a Gerber EZ-Out in ATS-34. The blade was great. The handle... was okay... the lock wasn't so great.. the pocket clip SUCKED. I've had excellent Gerbers, good Gerbers, mediocre Gerbers, and downright awful Gerbers... Same with Buck, CRKT, Benchmade, etc.

Sam
 
The worst thing I've been misled on was shipping costing almost as much as the price of the actual knife. :@
 
I went to replace the Cold Steel Voyager that I had carried for about 12 years only to discover that the new ones have devolved into a cheap looking p.o.s. I ended up with a SOG trident.
 
I blame it on the knife network ' hey look at this knife that'd made of aluminum and brass and I wouldn't trust to cut butter. Its been off the market for two years and now its back and you can buy it for only $2.00!! What an amazing bargain!' Sorry I was up late last night after my son fell asleep and I laughed at first when I watched it and then it made new progressively more angry until I had to shut off the tv.
 
I can understand that. I have a few buddies who are "in to knives" that watch that garbage. *shrugs* It makes me sick because I *KNOW* it's garbage. Some people can't be told...

Sam
 
My early purchases of Boker Plus were dissapointing in the fact that the collabs were outstanding in their potential, but the QC on the final product drove me away. I knew Boker Tree Brand to be well built and they are, but the quality didn't extend to the Plus line and I would still have most of them if it wasn't for the F&F issues.
 
I went to replace the Cold Steel Voyager that I had carried for about 12 years only to discover that the new ones have devolved into a cheap looking p.o.s. I ended up with a SOG trident.

The older Voyagers were excellent. The newer Triad's are more "utilitarian" now I believe, if that makes any sense. Good luck with the Trident.
 
I think the problem was that some of these knife companies changed. Puma used to make great knives, from what I've read, but don't any more. I'm not sure if it's because they've been sold, or just decided to appeal to a different market with cheap, offshore knives. Similarly, Gerber used to be a fine knife company. They got bought by Fiskars, and now mostly sell junk from China.

I suspect all your assumptions were correct a while ago, but are not know.

Whever I get interested in a new knife, or a company I'm not familiar with or current on, first thing I do is a Search here on Bladeforums.

Good luck.
 
I think the problem was that some of these knife companies changed. Puma used to make great knives, from what I've read, but don't any more. I'm not sure if it's because they've been sold, or just decided to appeal to a different market with cheap, offshore knives. Similarly, Gerber used to be a fine knife company. They got bought by Fiskars, and now mostly sell junk from China.

I suspect all your assumptions were correct a while ago, but are not know.

Whever I get interested in a new knife, or a company I'm not familiar with or current on, first thing I do is a Search here on Bladeforums.

Good luck.

Like Schrade. Legalized Chinese knock offs of what was once fine cutlery.
 
In the sixties, seventies and eightys Puma were wonderful knives but when the former owner Luaterburg I think died Puma was sold and the quality went down and most made in China. You can get a bad knife from any company but we still have good companies around. Stay informed here. A G russell has some excellent stuff and tries to provide good quality and has a great garantee and service.

RKH
 
I think the problem was that some of these knife companies changed. Puma used to make great knives, from what I've read, but don't any more. I'm not sure if it's because they've been sold, or just decided to appeal to a different market with cheap, offshore knives. Similarly, Gerber used to be a fine knife company. They got bought by Fiskars, and now mostly sell junk from China.

I suspect all your assumptions were correct a while ago, but are not know.

Whever I get interested in a new knife, or a company I'm not familiar with or current on, first thing I do is a Search here on Bladeforums.

Good luck.

The Gerber 06 is made in the USA. Darn fine knife too. It is a shame that like you said, most of their line is China made junk.
 
Misleading are brand names like Schrade and Camillus.
These are now just names that were bought out by other companies (Taylor and Acme) when the original makers went under.
The knives ARE NOT the Schrade and Camillus knives of years past.
 
the crkt m16-10kz it is made of some wounder steel that i could not put a edge on. and its one of there top of the line tactical folders.
 
Back
Top